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A fact from Oxford zero emission zone appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 4 October 2024 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that Oxford is the first city in the United Kingdom to adopt a zero emission zone?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2024/October. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Zero-emission zone in Oxford.

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The result was: promoted by DimensionalFusion talk 09:58, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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... that buses in Oxford accounted for as much as 80% of pollution in the city centre before the low emission zone was launched in 2014?

Source: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-oxfordshire-25557090 "The LEZ [low emission zone] will only apply to buses which account for up 80% of the pollution in the city centre"

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Comment: Should be good as this article is just above 1500 characters. My third article.

Moved to mainspace by JuniperChill (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

JuniperChill (talk) 08:57, 2 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Not a review, but there was an excellent piece in Roads.org.uk that talks about this. I'll leave it to you to decide whether he constitutes an WP:EXPERTSPS or not.--Laun chba ller 09:45, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Ah yes, I never thought about reading that article. It's very useful for readers. I have heard of roads.org.uk but never thought about them publishing a ZEZ article. JuniperChill (talk) 11:43, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You might want to do something about the unsourced content in this. (I don't plan on reviewing this any time soon as I review oldest first, but I might pop in and expand it once I've finished the stuff on my to-do list.)--Laun chba ller 12:16, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@JuniperChill: Not a full review, but I have tagged the article with two "citation needed" tags. These need to be resolved before this nomination can be approved. Z1720 (talk) 03:54, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Z1720: I added two references to replace the {{cn}}. Should be good JuniperChill (talk) 09:38, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have modified the hook for what happened after buses accounted for up to 80%. JuniperChill (talk) 15:17, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This needs a reviewer to look at all the criteria. Z1720 (talk) 11:56, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@JuniperChill: Was about to review, however I see that the phrase "nine streets in Oxford" is in the lead but not in the body and sourced nowhere. This should be rectified.--Laun chba ller 18:13, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Launchballer: Done with the citations. However, the "nine streets" already appeared on both the lead and the body. diff JuniperChill (talk) 22:31, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, my mistake. (You can actually remove the ref from the lead if you like, since it isn't actually necessary.) I will review this in the morning.--Laun chba ller 22:37, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Long enough, new enough, QPQ unnecessary. Earwig's down, so will assess that when it's up, though I'm not seeing a need for any other dispute tags. The article's hook isn't directly relevant to the zero-emission zone and I think a new hook should be proposed.--Laun chba ller 10:17, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

How about Alt1: "that Oxford's zero emission zone has faced a hypocrisy claim and been known to some as the congestion charge as non-electric vehicles can enter on payment?" JuniperChill (talk) 11:53, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I would question the WP:NPOVness of that hook, given that the source cites three people, two for and one against. I'm not even sure I'd have it in the article.--Laun chba ller 22:17, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Is there a reference for it being the UK's first zero emission zone?--Laun chba ller 10:43, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I would note that googling UK's first zero emission zone would bring up many sources that state that Oxford has introduced its first ZEZ. In fact, this source from the BBC is used in the article and states it within the first few paragraphs. Maybe that could be the potential hook about UK's first ZEZ. I have also removed a sentence from the article. JuniperChill (talk) 19:27, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That article cites Oxford City Council and Oxfordshire County Council, neither of whom are independent, and they describe a then-future event. Do you have a source that says it definitely was? Pedantic I know, but I'd rather not be dragged to WT:DYK or WP:ERRORS.--Laun chba ller 19:46, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have found some, including one from Fleetnews, New AutoMotive and Fleet Europe.— Preceding unsigned comment added by JuniperChill (talk • contribs)

Do you have one that doesn't talk in future tense, i.e. was published after it launched?--Laun chba ller 08:19, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Here is one finally! Which was posted in feb 2024. It's the last paragraph btw. JuniperChill (talk) 19:55, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Fine by me. Now let's see a hook so I can approve it.--Laun chba ller 10:40, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

ALT2: "that Oxford is the first city in the United Kingdom to adopt a zero emission zone?" JuniperChill (talk) 20:22, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Let's roll.--Laun chba ller 20:59, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]