Talk:Zaman (newspaper)

Neutral point of view

According to wiki rules, it is not duty of wiki writers to accuse someone or something. Zaman newspaper is known to be related with Fethullah Gülen movement and it is mentioned in the article. As the sources shows this movement has many opponents, enemies as well as supporters. So, balanced arguments coul be added to the article regarding the opinions of both sides. As the given source [1] indicates "the Gulen Movement does not own ‘Zaman’ newspaper", it is not acceptable to include a comment as the introduction sentence such as "a conservative Islamist Turkish daily newspaper and known for being a significant media outlet representing the Islamic Fethullah Gülen movement". Althouh the stance of the souce is seen from the name of the given "source", "Fethullah Gülen's Grand Ambition: Turkey's Islamist Danger", even that source does not have such a citation. Also, the verifiability of the source which includes lots of accusations is doubtful since it is a forum page. I restored the initial opening sentence of the article as "Zaman is a major Turkish daily newspaper in Turkey. It was founded in 1986 and was the first Turkish daily to go online in 1995". If you want to discuss accusations about the newspaper or its political stance, you can open a new section as "Pollitical Allegiance" or similar, and write to there. Still without forgetting the principles of wikipedia.Obuli (talk) 19:28, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

suggestions for improvement and a warning

I think I should have started a ToDo page for this article, but I couldn't figure out how to. This is a pretty good starter, but Zaman's links with the Fethullah Gülen movement, perhaps along with the other media outlets of Feyza (STV,Aksiyon..etc.)should be mentioned. I think an article without mentioning Zaman's significance in Turkey's islamist movement is very misleading. Its editorial stance, its closeness to the Justice and Development Party government should be added. The fact that it regularly prints interviews/chats with Gülen should be included. A reader should be able to understand that this newspaper is a part of a larger mission; and it is a religious-minded one. Otherwise it is too misleading. I think the editors should be super careful with updates to this article as this is an emotional political issue. If a pro-Gülen person works on the article, then it will pretty much look like what it looks like now (i.e great, georgeous, super, angelic, wonderful newspaper.) However, a secularist might do great injustice to the newspaper and miss out some of the progressive aspects of Turkey's islamists represented by Zaman. I think as this article grows, it might turn into a one that is closed to public editing. But for now, at least the reader should understand that there is the issue of "religion" involved when you say Zaman. If we happen to forget to mention that, then we are not doing a Wikipedia article as we violate all its principles. Grushka (talk) 13:22, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

reference

It says "This article or section does not cite its references or sources." Can you state you want reference about what, please? 88.233.10.25 15:22, 30 December 2006 (UTC)Hakan_D

Advert

This article really sounds like an advertisement: As an independent daily newspaper, Zaman is recognized for its fair, objective and balanced news coverage. It has won numerous national and international awards, in particular for its modern page layout and contributions to inter-cultural understanding through its international editions.

Its political orientation should also be mentioned in its introduction. Another thing that should be mentioned, is the fact that Zaman is often distributed for free (obviously in an attempt to acquire a share of the market), which explains its high circulation number. --Benne ['bɛnə] _(talk) 11:53, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

Your claim that Zaman is ditributed freely is not true. I added a report published by an independent Media Auditing company which verifies Zaman's circulation. Kel einstein (talk) 22:33, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

---They leave 3 to 5 copies at the entrance of where I live and there is only one subscriber out of 16 families living here. Admittedly, it is a small statistical sample size but even 2 copies for 1 subscriber would be enormous. However, 4 median copies for one subscriber is just ridiculous. 88.234.79.105 (talk) 03:59, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

To add to your sample: I received daily copies of Zaman for free for a couple of months. After I indicated that I was not interested in becoming a subscriber, the delivery stopped. --Benne ['bɛnə] _(talk) 08:45, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

Circulation Figure Outdated

It is unclear as to when the circulation figure was taken, but seems to be very outdated. I don't think the source is very credible either. I suggest a removal. 81.215.13.145 13:20, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

The circulation figure is updated now. Kel einstein (talk) 22:34, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:Zaman.jpg

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BetacommandBot (talk) 05:38, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

circulation

in the reference for the circulation of zaman [2], the subscription/single copy ratio doesn't seem so trustable.it's like 10/1, while most other newspapers has approximately the reverse subscription/single copy ratio. Kuzux (talk) 12:42, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Pending changes

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Comments on the suitability of theis page for "Pending changes" would be appreciated.

Please update the Queue page as appropriate.

Note that I am not involved in this project any much more than any other editor, just posting these notes since it is quite a big change, potentially

Regards, Rich Farmbrough, 00:43, 17 June 2010 (UTC).

Cursive?

Why is the article's title in cursive? (°_°) --Dia^ (talk) 05:51, 19 August 2011 (UTC)

Agree. Does someone know how to correct this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.127.31.77 (talk) 11:13, 8 April 2012 (UTC)

Zaman point of view questionable

The sentence in the article " It is a conservative[6] newspaper which has a moderate Islamic worldview" is pure fiction. This is not a conservative newspaper. It's basically a pure liberal antiAKP newspaper. They rarely on their website support the AKP. The main opinion columns are never conservative and always critical of the conservative AKP. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.128.40.138 (talk) 08:19, 23 March 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 3 June 2014

== Editors ==

• Chief Executive Officer and Editor-in-Chief: Ekrem Dumanlı (editor-in-chief of Zaman)
• Managing Editors: Veysel Ayhan - Ali Akkuş
• Ankara Representative: Mustafa Ünal
• Social Media Editor: Salih Sarıkaya
• Business News Editor: Turhan Bozkurt
• Culture & Arts Editor: Ali Çolak

References

AgahAlptekin (talk) 12:40, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

• Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. — {{U|Technical 13}} ^{(e • t • c)} 13:03, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 15 April 2016

Please make change in circulation number and trend. Current circulation is 2424 according to Medyatava (http://www.medyatava.com/tiraj/2016-04-04). Circulation is also in decreasing trend.

Related part in source text: |circulation = 924.018

Same part after the change: | circulation = 2.424 | circulation_date = April 2016

References

AYasinAkalin (talk) 23:22, 15 April 2016 (UTC)

 Done  Stick to sources! Paine  01:38, 25 April 2016 (UTC)

edit request

In the editions section words like "is" and "are" need to be changed to "was" and "were" - the newspaper no longer exists. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.108.82.6 (talk) 03:12, 20 December 2019 (UTC)

Done – Thjarkur (talk) 13:21, 20 December 2019 (UTC)

Not done entirely! There are still several in the article, and even one still in the lede: "It also has many regular columnists". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.3.117.117 (talk) 16:20, 21 June 2020 (UTC)