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Today Epicgenius moved this page from Yissachar Dov Rokeach (I) to Yissachar Dov Rokeach I, and Yissachar Dov Rokeach (II) to Yissachar Dov Rokeach II. He explained on his talk page that the "I" can be confused with a lowercase "L" or even a pipe "|".

I explained to him that there is no such thing as "the first," the "second," "senior" or "junior" in Judaism, which is what the Roman numeral after the name implies. The parenthetical Roman numeral was only placed on Hasidic dynasty pages to differentiate the Rebbes who have the same name, such as Shlomo Halberstam (I) and Shlomo Halberstam (II), Shmuel Bornsztain (I) and Shmuel Bornsztain (II), and Aharon of Karlin (I) and Aharon of Karlin (II). The Roman numeral should not be looked at as part of their name at all.

Another option may be to expand the title, e.g.: Yissachar Dov Rokeach, third Belzer rebbe, Yissachar Dov Rokeach, fifth Belzer rebbe, Shmuel Bornsztain, second Sochatchover Rebbe, Shmuel Bornsztain, fifth Sochatchover Rebbe.

Comments? Yoninah (talk) 18:40, 4 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that the brackets are better, for the reason stated. Other disambiguation could also be used, but under no circumstances should the "I" or "I"" be left without brackets. Debresser (talk) 21:27, 4 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I am in favor of the first. Having a year is awkward, and I haven't yet seen that being done on Wikipedia for people. Debresser (talk) 15:18, 7 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I like the first as well, as it complies with WP:D. Epicgenius(give him tiradecheck out damage) 15:19, 7 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Fine with me. I'll go ahead and do other page renames, as mentioned above. Yoninah (talk) 19:04, 7 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]