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Hudson's Bay Company post at Yerba Buena

Dont' have the details handy, but I do know that Yerba Buena was a post of the HBC's Columbia Department, hq'd at Fort Vancouver on the Columbia River; I'm not sure if this was at the town, or maybe on Yerba Buena Island; if it was at the town then Category:Hudson's Bay Company forts is applicable (although that cat name shoudl maybe say "forts and posts" in its title).Skookum1 (talk) 04:31, 18 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It was an office on Montgomery Street, one of the first few buildings built after the pueblo was chartered by the Mexican government, and in no way a fort. I think the book "Imperial San Francisco" talks about it briefly. 66.92.14.198 (talk) 06:21, 18 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Removed text

Removed "began to attract American settlers" (in 1835). There were very few Americans anywhere in Mexican California before the Mexican-American War, as it was illegal for them to be there without specific permission from the governor. WCCasey (talk) 23:55, 30 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

That's not true, actually - there was some immigration even that early, mostly Americans and Europeans who adopted Mexican citizenship. By the 1840s, the numbers of both legal and illegal American immigrants were such that the Mexican governor threatened the illegal ones with expulsion, which was one of the causes of the Bear Flag Revolt. Many of these Americans would have been in the area of Sutter's Fort. But for San Francisco, the 1842 census shows the presence of 7 Americans out of a total population 196 and another 8 of non-Spanish European origin. Peter G Werner (talk) 15:20, 23 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Bolton citation

I tried to tidy the citation to the internet archive of the Bolton authored book. I somewhat succeeded , but do not believe it is in the proper form. I am uncertain how to proceed and welcome any editor who wished to address the poor formatting. Kind reagards,Hu Nhu (talk) 02:52, 6 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Misconceptions about the name "Yerba Buena" and substantial revision of the article

There seems to be some confusion about "Yerba Buena" as "the first name of San Francisco". This is interpreted as being the first post-indigenous name of the area from the time of Spanish settlement in 1776 onward. That is not the case - the original settlement of San Francisco consisted only of the Mission and Presidio, both called "San Francisco", and this was the name of the area as it appeared on maps, nautical charts, and the writing of early explorers like Vancouver and Kotzebue. (Some English-language called it "St. Francisco") "Yerba Buena" was the name of an important anchorage and, more generally, the uninhabited northeastern side of the San Francisco area. In 1834, "Yerba Buena" became the the name of the first incorporated town in the area, and that became the basis for the City of San Francisco.

The way this article had been written was as a pre-1848 history of San Francisco, essentially a fork from History of San Francisco. I've rewritten a large part of this article to emphasize the history of the place name "Yerba Buena" and the incorporated pueblo and have narrowed discussion of the Presidio and Mission of San Francisco only in relation to that. Any material and sources that I've overwritten and wasn't already in History of San Francisco I've moved to that article. Peter G Werner (talk) 19:46, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]