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Osibanjo

I can't believe he is an in-law to late chief obafemi awolowo Chidera gold (talk) 16:31, 8 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Corruption allegations

Imperialization40, Eruditescholar, Ikemis (since you seem to be the main editors of this page) and others, There used to be a section called corruption which was removed in the edit war. Should this be added back to the article, or are the allegations not mentioned in reliable sources? Sam-2727 (talk) 23:19, 6 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Sam-2727. Yes, I think the heading should be restored to the article. I created the heading with painstaking effort to ensure adequate citation of authoritative sources - NO baseless "allegation" with or without referencing was made towards the persons article. Furthermore, the content of the heading was thorough and extensively referenced. However to my chagrin it was deleted by user Brandt2001 - with no credible reason why (it seems the user is a novice due to the pattern of his erratic contributions on the day deletion was made). I tried to undo the corruption heading the user deleted, but due to conflicting edits is not possible - and I do not have the time to re-create the heading, as it was quite extensive. In the future I strongly suggest we make use of the talk page before any such changes are made, and not surmounting to editorial paroxysmal pompousness. Imperialization40 (talk) 12:36, 7 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you Sam-2727 and others, there seems to be a plausible COI with the edits on the page made by very new users and IP. Anyway, i also added the 'corruption allegations' which was there from previous history but removed by an IP user as the allegations are well refernced and should be inputed. Kaizenify (talk) 10:58, 7 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hello: The Wikipedia policy on editing Biographies of Living Persons is very clear and the insertion of this section by Imperialization40 offends the rules on verifiability, neutral point of view and no original research. What are the reliable sources referenced? Pointblank News and other tabloid-like sources. Why didn't he allude to the fact that the Chairman of the House Committee in question clearly clarified that the National Assembly did not indict Prof Osinabajo.

(See a video report carried by a Nigerian Television Channel, Independent Television on this link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gNlQzHUpJY: At approximately 1:35, Mr. Isa, the then Chairman of the House of Representatives Committee on Emergency and Disaster Preparedness categorically stated,

“In our submissions, there is no place specifically where I mentioned or the Committee mentioned the Vice President or Professor Osinbajo.”

In addition, we are under obligation to immediately delete any poorly sourced material or contentious material that might be subject to a libelous claim. Some of these bogus claims are subject of legal process such as the Timi Frank claims and the Magu N4b claims. I think this edits were hatchet jobs. Anyone is invited to scrutinise the edits of Imperialization40 to check his bona fides.

I have looked at your edits and they are disingenious at best and malicious at worst.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ikemis (talk • contribs) 14:45, 7 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Ikemis; unfortunately your contributions to this seems not neutral while I understand that you are the article creator so will advise that you stay back without further revert edits on this and allow more neutral editors to review this as Wikipedia is not about winning. Now to respond to some of your submissions: a Wikipedia article should be neutral enough without weighing at one sided; also in the subject article: the heading reads “corruption allegations “ and that doesn’t mean the subject is indicted, articles like Bukola Saraki, Bola Tinubu, Atiku Abubakar all have corruption allegations headings one way or the other and that doesn’t mean they are indicted by a law court as long as the allegations are backed by reliable sources and important for the encyclopaedic content of the subject. Source mentions from Premium Times here and here also from The Cable and Dailypost and more all suggest various corruption allegations. Wikipedia is not a PR site but an encyclopaedia that encompasses information about a subject with backed up reliable sources. Once again; pls refrain from edit war and allow a more neutral and experienced editors do the vetting. Thanks Kaizenify (talk) 16:46, 7 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hello all: let's keep the section out of the article until we can come to some conclusion. I do think that, while Ikemis and others have a conflict of interest, there is some merit to their claims. Specifically, the corruption allegations were denied and I don't really see any convictions coming out of them, which should be stated in the article. I'm kind of uncertain about the reliability of the sources currently present, so I will ask around. Sam-2727 (talk) 16:44, 7 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Sam-2727, any update on the sources? I think its time to revisit the heading for a better balanced article. Let me know what you think. User:Imperialization40 (talk) 20:42, 20 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Imperialization40, the article is balanced the way it is. If I may ask, why are you so fixated in pushing this POV? —Nnadigoodluck🇳🇬 19:48, 20 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Nnadigoodluck, on the contrary attempting to synthesize and balance the varying POV already present in the article. The question should be why not add an authoritative section with enough sources to back the allegations? It seems a lot to me like an attempt to suppress a referenced section and COI. User:Imperialization40 (talk) 20:55, 20 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Imperialization40, from pushing your controversial POV on the Sani Abacha article, to logging out and pushing it, to reverting and making sure it's pushed even against community consensus. Now, you've started pushing another controversial POV on Yemi Osinbajo article. At this juncture, I'll advise you to stop. Best, —Nnadigoodluck🇳🇬 20:03, 20 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Nnadigoodluck, why the veiled threat? I thought Wikipedia was all about editing with proportionately and NPOV. Relax please, I'm not pushing any agenda here simply trying to make the article proportionate. I could have just added the section without any recourse to what you or the others think, but I did not because as I stated earlier I'm in favour of consensus. User:Imperialization40 (talk) 21:12, 20 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Imperialization40, the way it is now, the consensus is not favoring you. This is the point where you stop and focus on other things beside pushing this particular POV. Best, —Nnadigoodluck🇳🇬 20:17, 20 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Nnadigoodluck, surely you must be deluding yourself to think you speak for the consensus? I respectfully yield to your personal predilection and await for what Sam-2727 and the others have to say for a collective consesus. User:Imperialization40 (talk) 21:24, 20 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Imperialization40, Okay. Best, —Nnadigoodluck🇳🇬 20:35, 20 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Nnadigoodluck, Good. User:Imperialization40 (talk) 21:38, 20 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you Sam-2727; you are right about Ikemis plausible COI and others. Some of the sources mentioned on the allegations are reliable enough; as per norm what could have been added in the section is the rebuff from the subject but non mention of the allegations isn’t encyclopedic enough as it makes it seem PR. . Kaizenify (talk) 16:57, 7 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hold your horses. Ikemis and the others involved in the warring should carefully cross-check the sources instead of grandstanding. I agree with Kaizenify and Sam-2727, since the heading seems currently contentious - it should be removed for the time being - until consensus is reached. I'm happy at least we get to discuss rather than needless warring Imperialization40 (talk) 19:34, 7 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I think this is a developing coverage, with time we will know if it will be appropriate to include such sections (depends on how reliable sources begin to cover him). For now, I think it should be left out. Most of the politicians cited by Kaizefy as examples are persons who have been in and out of politics for decades so it is easier for media to properly profile their stance on corruption. Osinbajo is still very new in the political game (just 10 years or less), and has never been out of power for proper investigative coverage. In summary, let's continue to observe. HandsomeBoy (talk) 02:38, 8 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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