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Move to "Wu (Hao)-style t'ai chi ch'uan"

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It has been discussed at length here: Talk:T'ai chi ch'uan#Romanization / Naming Revisited. Unfortunately the consensus was not reached to move to pinyin (taijiquan), as most other Chinese martial arts have done. This is because although most well learned practitioners and professionals of the martial art refer to it in the pinyin form, the majority of references to it are still in the Wade-Giles form. Consensus was thus reached to at least use the accurate Wade-Giles form, if at all, since the spelling "tai chi chuan" is too ambiguous as in turn one could, for example, also write "chi" (for "qi") instead of "ch'i", and making it appear to be the "chi" in the name (tai chi chuan), etc. This consensus has allowed for correctness while following WP guidelines of adopting the most common usage.
In turn, in all related articles it's to be made immediately clear that "t'ai chi ch'uan" is interchangeable with "taijiquan", e.g. writing "t'ai chi ch'uan (taijiquan)" or "taijiquan (t'ai chi ch'uan"), while on the t'ai chi ch'uan page, a write-up is going to be made to reflect that officially, taijiquan is preferred. For the sake of avoiding unnecessary fragmentation, all the family styles are being renamed to "t'ai chi ch'uan" as well. The shift of common usage is slowing moving toward pinyin and in time the change will be made to it, but for now the current usage in it's correct form is what seems best to use and, of course, to avoid confusion through naming fragmentation, it's best to have all sub-pages in-line with the main t'ai chi ch'uan page. I hope this doesn't upset anyone and you all understand the necessity for the current position that has been taken. InferKNOX (talk) 12:42, 27 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Improving lineage trees

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Wu (Hao)-style tai chi lineage tree
Key:NEIJIA
Solid linesDirect teacher-student.
Dot linesPartial influence
/taught informally
/limited time.
TAIJIQUAN
Dash linesIndividual(s) omitted.
Dash crossBranch continues.CHEN-STYLEZhaobao-style
(杨露禅)
Yang Luchan
1799–1872
YANG-STYLE
(陈清萍)
Chen Qingping
1795–1868
Chen Small Frame,
Zhaobao Frame
(武禹襄)
Wu Yuxiang
1812–1880
WU (HAO)-STYLE
Zhaobao He-style
(李啟軒)
Li Qixuan
1835-1899
2nd gen. Wu (Hao)
(李亦畬)
Li Yiyu
1832–1892
2nd gen. Wu (Hao)
Li-style(郝為真)
Hao Weizhen
1849–1920
3rd gen. Wu (Hao)
(李逊之)
Li Xunzhi
1882–1944
3rd gen. Wu (Hao)
WU-STYLE(孙禄堂)
Sun Lutang
1861–1932
SUN-STYLE
(郝月如)
Hao Yueru
1877-1935
4th gen. Wu (Hao)
李寶玉 (李香遠)
Li Baoyu (Li Xiangyuan)
1888-1961
4th gen. Wu (Hao)
李聖端
Li Shengduan
1888-1948
4th gen. Wu (Hao)
李錦藩
Li Jinfan
4th gen. Wu (Hao)
(董英傑)
Dong Yingjie
1897–1961
4th gen. Yang
(郝少如)
Hao Shaoru
1908-1983
5th gen. Wu (Hao)
Wudang-style(刘积顺)
Liu Jishun
1930-Present
6th gen. Wu (Hao)
(李伟明)
Li Weiming
1944-Present
6th gen. Wu (Hao)
浦公達
Pu Gongda
1905-1997
6th gen. Wu (Hao)
CHEN-STYLEYANG-STYLEWU-STYLESUN-STYLEWU (HAO)-STYLE
Note:
  • This lineage tree is not comprehensive, but depicts those considered the 'gate-keepers' & most recognised individuals in each generation of Wu (Hao)-style.
  • Although many styles were passed down to respective descendants of the same family, the lineage focused on is that of the Wu (Hao) style & not necessarily that of the family.'

I'm working hard on improving the lineage trees for the main taijiquan page and for all the family style pages. Please comment on the this tree where you feel improvements can be made and help me by posting information on individuals that aught to be included in the tree and the reason for their significance so that a detailed Wu (Hao)-style tree can be produced. All individuals to be added that are approved upon (via consensus of course) will be added, unless they threaten to make the tree excessively large whilst adding little value to the overall tree.
The tree on the main page is to focus on the gate keepers of the styles in order to show each family style's lineage without making it excessively large, while the trees on the family style pages are to be more focused on the particular styles, showing a more in depth view of it's development & connection to other family styles. I hope to hear from as many of you as possible & will continue making edits to the tree here as feedback comes in. Thanks. InferKNOX (talk) 20:19, 18 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Lineage tree editing

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Above I have replaced the draft tree with a link to the template that has since been created, as this page was sometimes showing up in searches and causing confusion. I have made several small improvements to that template over the past year, including linking into sections of the updated Wu (Hao) article that mention recent generations, and look forward to further discussion such as whether we should add other masters such as Yao Jizu, Chen Gu'an, or Wu Wenhan, Zhai Weichuan, or Jimmy K. Wong. Jōkepedia (talk) 11:21, 19 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]