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Review: January 21, 2024. (Reviewed version).

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A fact from Wooden Warrior appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 8 February 2024 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that elementary school students named the Wooden Warrior roller coaster?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2024/February. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Wooden Warrior.

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GA Review

Passed. λ NegativeMP1 18:48, 21 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

This review is transcluded from Talk:Wooden Warrior/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: NegativeMP1 (talk · contribs) 20:06, 11 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'll take a look at this one soon. λ NegativeMP1 20:06, 11 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Really sorry for the wait, here you go. λ NegativeMP1 05:41, 21 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Review

You should be citing material later in the article than in the lead, additionally WP:CITELEAD exists.
- Moved citations
"Despite the coaster's small size, it has been well received by enthusiasts for its air time and thrilling experience." This sentence should be moved to the end of the lead paragraph to fall more in line with representing the article.
- Moved
"It was announced that the proposal would be submitted at the February meeting of the Town of Middlebury Planning & Zoning Commission" Sentence is missing a period.
- Added
"The ride also received high placements around its opening given its small size in the Golden Ticket Awards." Needs a source, also what? How do the two correlate?
- Removed the claim, replaced it with a cited one about the ride's placement in the GTA's best new ride category
"Note: Wooden Warrior has not charted in the Golden Ticket Awards since 2018." I think this is apparent, not necessary.
- Removed
I don't think the quote box is necessary and could just be paraphrased in the Reception section. Additionally what he said goes beyond this and there's more material to use.
- Moved into reception section and expanded. As per the other information in the source, most of the quotes are from minor enthusiasts, and I don't want the reception section to rely too heavily on a primary source.
Furthermore, I don't think describing someone as a famed something is encyclopedic writing. How are they famed? What are they known for?
- Removed
Spotchecking sources:
- Ref #4 only partially passes verification in one of its uses. The source says "more than", not that it was constructed with exactly that many.
  - Fixed
- Ref #16 passes verification, but as stated above, more of what Alvey said can be used.
  - Used more, as described earlier.

Decent amount of things I noticed, but it should be fixable. If I said something violates some sort of roller coaster manual of style or something, correct me because I know nothing about this field. Placing on hold anyway. λ NegativeMP1 05:41, 21 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I tried to address everything that you mentioned, please let me know if anything additional needs to be done. Thank you so much for the review, sorry for the issues, this is only my first GAN. ReedyTurnip (talk) 16:22, 21 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Alright, this looks good now. Passing, good job on your first GA.

λ NegativeMP1 18:43, 21 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by AirshipJungleman29 talk 18:35, 3 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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... that elementary school students named the Wooden Warrior? Source: https://www.courant.com/2010/09/29/kids-pick-a-name-for-quassy-roller-coaster/
- ALT1: ... that elementary school students named a roller coaster? Source: https://www.courant.com/2010/09/29/kids-pick-a-name-for-quassy-roller-coaster/
- ALT2: ... that the roller coaster Wooden Warrior had its name chosen by elementary school students? Source: https://www.courant.com/2010/09/29/kids-pick-a-name-for-quassy-roller-coaster/
- Reviewed: [[]]

Improved to Good Article status by ReedyTurnip (talk). Self-nominated at 19:14, 21 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Wooden Warrior; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

Starting review Valereee (talk) 19:34, 25 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

QPQ: None required.

Overall: Valereee (talk) 19:34, 25 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, ReedyTurnip, I'm not sure about the source for the hook sentence. I don't hugely object to such a source being used in the article itself, I don't think they're making this stuff up, but could we find something with a stronger indication of editorial oversight for DYK purposes? Valereee (talk) 19:42, 25 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I just added a second citation to the claim in the article, here is the link https://www.courant.com/2010/09/29/kids-pick-a-name-for-quassy-roller-coaster/. The Hartford Courant article has mostly the same information as the other source, though it is paywalled. I am not sure if the Coaster101 source should be kept in the article, it was considered generally reliable here, Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Amusement Parks/Archive 5, but the new source is more reliable, though paywalled.— Preceding unsigned comment added by ReedyTurnip (talk • contribs)

ReedyTurnip, thanks! Happy to AGF the paywalled source, and readers can see from the headline itself that it supports the assertion. Valereee (talk) 12:23, 26 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

ALT0 approved. ReedyTurnip, just for further thought, you might want to add 'roller coaster' somehow into the hook. Roller coasters are something a lot of people are interested in. I'd suggest one, but then we'd need to get someone else in here to approve it, as I can't approve my own hook. Ping me if you add one! Valereee (talk) 12:25, 26 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Valereee, I added a couple of alternate hooks to the nomination. I wasn't exactly sure how to include the fact that Wooden Warrior is a roller coaster while maintaining the active tone and flow of the hook, but hopefully one of the new hooks will be approved. Thank you for the review. ReedyTurnip (talk) 18:02, 27 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

All three ALTs approved. ReedyTurnip, if you prefer any over the others, you're allowed to strike any ALTs you don't prefer. Valereee (talk) 18:09, 27 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]