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Reviewer: K. Peake (talk · contribs) 08:49, 17 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]


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Criteria: 1a. prose () 1b. MoS () 2a. ref layout () 2b. cites WP:RS () 2c. no WP:OR () 2d. no WP:CV ()
3a. broadness () 3b. focus () 4. neutral () 5. stable () 6a. free or tagged images () 6b. pics relevant ()
Note: this represents where the article stands relative to the Good Article criteria. Criteria marked are unassessed

Following through with my commitment! --K. Peake 08:49, 17 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • @Kyle Peake: I followed all of the last directions you had given and made another edit to the article. If there are any more errors, please let me know. Also, I noticed that you questioned whether one of the sources were reliable which I assume was the Daily Play MPE and I can confirm that it is considering that it's been used for the same information listed in a few other GA articles. I also wanted to keep the 2013 entry on the Top R&B Albums chart since that chart was first published a year after Woman to Woman was released. --Fullmoon211 (talk) 18:46, 18 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Infobox and lead

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  • Add a genre to the infobox
  • Change the release date of "Trust and Believe" to October 2, 2012, per the source in the body
  • Maybe split the release into a sentence beginning with "It was released" and also mention the initially planned release date?
  • "of producers such as" → "of producers, such as" and mention less in the lead since there is too many listed at the moment for "such as"
  • "Vidal and Wonda." → "Vidal, and Wonda."
  • "Musically, Woman to Woman is an R&B album, that featured" → "Musically, the album is an R&B record that features"
  • "Three tracks from the album were" → "Three tracks from Woman to Woman were"
  • ""Enough of No Love" was greeted with a positive reception" → "The song received a positive reception"
  • "chart as well as reaching the top-ten" → "chart, as well as reaching the top-10" per MOS:NUM
  • "on October 22, 2012," → "on October 2, 2012," per earlier
  • Pipe urban contemporary to Urban contemporary music
  • "and the album's concept." → "and the concept."
  • "debuted at number ten on" → "debuted at number 10 on"
  • "Woman to Woman also peaked at" → "It also peaked at" to avoid using the title twice
  • "The album was further promoted through" → "Further promotion was done by Cole through"

Background and development

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  • "her fourth studio album, titled" → "her fourth studio album"
  • "The album spawned two singles," → "It spawned the two singles" to avoid overusage of commas
  • Add chart after Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Songs
  • "and also revealed that she had plans to" → "and also had plans to"
  • "albums and described the album as a "return to her roots"" → "albums, and described it as a return "to her roots"" per the source
  • The "her ladies" part is not backed up by the source
  • "revealed that she planned on working with several artists such as" → "revealed she planned on working with several artists, such as"
  • "Ester Dean, and Trey Songz, among others."
  • [11][12] should be swapped to correspond with the information
  • Mention the name of the reality television series since the source provides it

Recording and production

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  • Quote box looks good!
  • Remove overly obvious link on Los Angeles
  • I am confused about Chalice Recording Studios; is this part of Geffen's headquarters since and is used here even though more studios are listed afterwards? If not, change to a comma.
  • Change New York to New York City (NYC) with no link
  • Add a comma before "and Cole's home studio"
  • Wikilink Cleveland to itself
  • "The album's tracks were" → "The tracks were"
  • "in New York City, New York and" → "in NYC and"
  • "in Los Angeles, California." → "in Los Angeles."
  • "Toxic and Ester Dean." → "Toxic, and Dean."
  • "for the album." → "for Woman to Woman."
  • "with since her second studio album," → "since her second studio album" because you use with earlier on in this sentence
  • "who co-wrote several songs on the album." → "who co-wrote several of the songs."
  • Thisis50 should not be italicised
  • "that the album reflected around her musical growth and that she" → "that Woman to Woman reflected around her musical growth and she"
  • "lives as well"." → "lives as well."" per MOS:QUOTE

Music and lyrics

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  • The post-breakup anthem quote is not sourced
  • "that things couldn't work out." → "that things did not work out."
  • "that sticks with the same type" → "that follows the same type"
  • Remove wikilink on instrumentation
  • Pipe jazzy soul to Soul jazz
  • "she starts singing on the chorus," → "she starts singing the chorus of" since this is not a full sentence quoted
  • "used to, own it"." → "used to, own it."" per MOS:QUOTE
  • "man, and have a" → "man and have a"
  • "with Elijah Blake that captures" → "with Blake that captures"
  • Wikilink as snare drums
  • Wikilink techno to itself
  • Remove overly obvious wikilink on piano
  • "the tenth track, "Hey Sexy"" → "the 10th track "Hey Sexy"" per MOS:NUM, but the 10th position is not sourced
  • Pipe 1990s to 1990s in music
  • "from Robin Thicke and centers around" → "from Robin Thicke, and centers around"
  • "history who don't want to" → "history, who do not want to"
  • "a love song about" → "is a love song about"
  • "with lyrics such as these lines," → "with lines such as," but these are not sourced

Release and artwork

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  • "The album's cover artwork was" → "Its cover artwork was" with the pipe
  • "photoshoot and the photoshoot took place" → "photoshoot, which took place"
  • "in New York City, New York in celebration of the album" → "in NYC to celebrate Woman to Woman"
  • "with people such as" → "with the likes of"
  • "Michaela Angela Davis and" → "Michaela Angela Davis, and"
  • If "it's literally me" is not the actual start of a sentence, remove the preceding colon
  • "guaranteed her fans that they would like it," → "guaranteed the enjoyment of her fans," or something similar to avoid using "it" twice
  • "The album was first expected" → "Woman to Woman was first expected"
  • "to November 19," → "to November 19, 2012,"
  • "On October 17," → "On November 2,"
  • "for the album was held on November 5 in Los Angeles, California." → "for it was held in Los Angeles on November 5, 2012."

Promotion

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  • I'm not sure about this order; maybe singles should come first since they are more significant and the first one was before the first performance?

Live performances and tour

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  • "on BET on November 4." → "via BET on November 4, 2012."
  • "On November 16, she" → "On November 16, 2012, Cole"
  • "Big Jam event where" → "Big Jam event, where"
  • "aired on BET on" → "aired through BET on"
  • "On July 3, she performed" → "On July 3, 2013, Cole performed"
  • "strong vocalists as acts on the tour," → "strong vocalists as support acts,"
  • Remove pipe on Brandy
  • Pipe Mateo to Iman Jordan

Singles

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  • "The album's lead single," → "The lead single from Woman to Woman,"
  • Remove wikilink on "Enough of No Love"
  • Remove wikilink on Lil Wayne
  • "Debuting at number 94 on the" → "Debuting at number 94 on the US"
  • Wikilink music video
  • "rapping his verse will sitting atop a" → "rapping his verse sat atop a"
  • Remove wikilink on "Trust and Believe"
  • "number two on the Bubbling Under Hot 100 and peaked at number 32" → "number two on the US Bubbling Under Hot 100 and number 32"
  • "The song's accompanying music video," → "The song's music video,"
  • Pipe urban contemporary to Urban contemporary music
  • "as the album's third single." → "as the third single of Woman to Woman."
  • "on the Adult R&B Songs chart" → "on the US Adult R&B Songs chart" but the number of weeks is not sourced
  • "The black-and-white music video," → "Its black-and-white music video," with the pipe
  • "displayed a story of Cole" → "displays a story of Cole"
  • Remove wikilink on BET
  • Remove wikilink on 106 & Park

Critical reception

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  • Pipe About.com to Dotdash Meredith
  • Change to Artistdirect with the wikilink
  • "received generally positive reviews" → "was met with generally positive reviews"
  • Remove pipe on music critics
  • AllMusic should not be italicised
  • Artistdirect should not be italicised
  • ""essential record" and highlighted" → ""essential record", and highlighted"
  • Pipe About.com to Dotdash Meredith
  • Remove the stars rating from prose per the reviews box and only keep what he labeled it as
  • "designated it "Album of the Week," summarizing that" → "designated Woman to Woman "Album of the Week", summarizing:"
  • "that it "[threatened] to" → "that this "threaten[ed] to"
  • "the lead-up, the aftermath."" → "the lead-up, the aftermath"." per MOS:QUOTE
  • "viewing its theme as "strong" as well as" → "viewing the theme as "strong", as well as"
  • "deemed it a" → "deemed the album a"
  • "Dave DiMartino, writing for Rolling Stone," → "Dave DiMartino, for Rolling Stone,"
  • "and turmoil" and considered it among her" → "and turmoil", and considered it among Cole's"
  • "openness about herself."" → "openness about herself"."
  • Pipe ballads to Sentimental ballad
  • "and felt that she showed" → "and felt that she shows"

Accolades

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  • Italicise Soul Bounce
  • "named it the year's third best record." → "named it the year's third best R&B record."
  • "ranked it as" → "ranked the album as"
  • "on the album as well as viewing the record as" → "on it, as well as identifying"

Commercial performance

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  • "top ten album in" → "top 10 album in" per MOS:NUM
  • "debuting at number ten on the" → "debuted at number 10 on the US" and place this before the fifth consecutive part, changing that to becoming
  • "chart with 96,000 copies" → "chart, with 96,000 copies"
  • Remove the number 15 drop per WP:CHARTTRAJ
  • "sold a total of 246,300 copies in the United States" → "had sold a total of 246,300 copies in the US" per MOS:US
  • "those component charts as well as the" → "these component charts and the"

Track listing

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  • Pipe Vidal Davis to Dre & Vidal
  • Should artists like Vidal and DJ Camper that are easily identified by their first introductions in songwriters be linked again under producers? If so, fix any redirects anyway.
  • Pipe Darhyl Camper, Jr. to Darhyl Camper
  • Pipe Ashanti Douglas to Ashanti (singer)

Credits and personnel

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Charts

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Weekly charts

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  • Is the Top R&B Albums re-entry really notable?

Year-end charts

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  • Good

Release history

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References

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  • Copyvio score looks solid at 25.9%!!!
  • Format ref 7 the same as the other Twitter ones
  • Cite Rap-Up as work/website instead on refs 8, 9, 10, 51 and 56
  • Cite Singersroom as publisher instead on refs 12, 27 and 59, only wikilinking on the first instance
  • Cite BET as publisher instead on refs 13, 32, 46, 65 and 88 with the wikilink on the first instance
  • Cite last name followed by first on ref 14
  • Wikilink Geffen Records on ref 16
  • Cite Sterling Sound as publisher instead and pipe to Sterling Sound Studios on ref 17
  • Fix MOS:QWQ issues with ref 18
  • Cite BroadwayWorld as publisher instead on ref 20
  • Cite MTV News as publisher instead on ref 21
  • Cite YouTube as via instead on ref 24
  • Cite Artistdirect as publisher instead on ref 26
  • Wikilink Rated R&B on ref 29 instead, citing as work/website on ref 45 too
  • Wikilink Apple Music on ref 30
  • Pipe Vibe to Vibe (magazine) on ref 33
  • Cite Idolator as publisher instead on refs 34 and 77, only wikilinking on the first instance
  • Wikilink iTunes Store on ref 35
  • Add SoulTracks to ref 36 as publisher with the wikilink
  • Cite ThisisRnB as work/website instead and fix MOS:QWQ issues with ref 42
  • Fix MOS:QWQ and MOS:CAPS issues with ref 47
  • Cite Rap-Up as work/website instead and fix MOS:CAPS issues with ref 54
  • Complex Music → Complex on ref 61
  • Remove Boston Globe Media from ref 62
  • Fix MOS:CAPS issues with ref 68
  • Remove or replace refs 69 and 73 per WP:RSP
  • Cite ABC News Radio as publisher instead on ref 72
  • Cite Yahoo! News as publisher instead on refs 75 and 108, only wikilinking on the first instance
  • Cite Def Pen as publisher instead on refs 75 and 80
  • Cite OnSmash as publisher instead on refs 79 and 84
  • Add a work/publisher to ref 85 and why is it reliable?
  • WP:OVERLINK of Billboard on ref 86
  • Cite Metacritic as publisher instead on ref 89
  • Cite About.com as publisher and pipe to Dotdash Meredith on ref 90
  • Cite AllMusic as publisher on refs 91 and 102 with the wikilink on the first instance
  • Cite Billboard as work/website instead on ref 106
  • Cite SOHH as publisher instead on refs 107 and 110
  • Remove Tobias Zywietz publisher from ref 113
  • Pipe Amazon to Amazon (company) on ref 117

Final comments and verdict

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