Talk:Wollaston (Quincy, Massachusetts)

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Merrymount/Wollaston

Merrymount and Wollaston are not one in the same. As someone who has lived in Merrymount for over 35 years, I can testify that it is commonly known that the circumference of Merrymount runs from Shore Avenue to Norton Rd. to Sea St. to Southern Artery to Furnace Brook Parkway and back to Shore Avenue. This boundary is recognized each third of July by the annual road race sponsored by the Merrymount association. Perhaps there is confusion since the Mount Wollaston cemetery does in fact lie within this boundary, but what is commonly considered Wollaston is north of Merrymount, south of North Quincy and east of Norfolk Downs. The generally accepted circumference of Wollaston is Quincy Shore Drive to Furnace Brook Parkway to Merrymount Parkway to Hancock St. (including neighborhoods on Beale St, westward to the Milton town line, but south of Montclair) to Elm Ave. and back to Quincy Shore Drive.

The corner of Bass St. and Hancock St. mentioned in the article is clearly not part of Merrymount.

The page has been slightly updated with the idea that Merrymount and Wollaston are not the same - also that Mount Wollaston lies within Merrymount. Merrymount needs to have its own page —Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.147.222.2 (talk) 20:16, 15 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

From unregistered user's talk page (User talk:192.147.222.2#Merrymount):

Unregistered user, if you want a separate article for Merrymount, then write it using verifiable sources and encyclopedic tone. Wikipedia wasn't created so that you could demand articles from others; it was created so that you could create an account and write those articles yourself. In response to your comments, I am almost certain, based on what historical information I have, that Mount Wollaston, Wollaston, and Merrymount were the same place, so the article wasn't entirely wrong. While circumstances may have changed, no one who knows enough about Merrymount seems to have considered it worth his or her while to write an article, yourself included. I would welcome such a contribution on your part! Let me know if you require assistance. :) --Aepoutre (talk) 19:16, 16 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Nah, it's perfectly acceptable to request articles if you don't know how to write one yourself; goodness knows, stubs from new users are usually nominated for deletion immediately anyways. Kudos to the anonymous user for pointing out that Merrymount currently redirects to this article; I hadn't realized. Merrymount, at least since WWII, has indeed been its own neighborhood, so I'll undo the redirect and write some woeful little stub. I'm not finding much in the way of sources, and I'm particularly confused on one particular point. Everything I've read so far, Aepoutre, supports your impression that Mount Wollaston and Mare Mount were the same place. What I can't figure out is if that place then became today's Wollaston or today's Merrymount, or if one split off from the other. There's also the possibility that either or both of the modern neighborhoods were simply named after the colonial settlements, and don't actually occupy the same geographical space or have any continuity. I'll keep looking, but I'm not feeling particularly lucid today, so any further input is more than welcome. --Fullobeans (talk) 23:15, 22 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Merrymount is now a disambiguation page, and Merrymount, Quincy, Massachusetts is its own article. I'm sort of thinking that Mount Wollaston should have its own article, since it doesn't appear to correspond exactly to today's Wollaston. But I'm still a bit confused on that point. --Fullobeans (talk) 04:27, 23 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Edmund not namesake of city or market

Neither the City of Quincy nor Quincy Market were named after Edmund Quincy. The City of Quincy was named after Colonel John Quincy. Quincy Market was named for Josiah Quincy III. I've removed the lines from the article claiming Edmund as the namesake of these two locations. --CPAScott (talk) 19:38, 10 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that neither were named after Edmund (in fact, there are plenty of sources I've probably added myself elsewhere on Wikipedia that speak against that), but that's not what it said. It said that Edmund was the progenitor of members of the Quincy family, after whom those things were named. It just required a more nuanced reading, is all. You're welcome to change the wording, if you like, but the assumption that it said anything like "these things were named after Edmund Quincy" just isn't correct. Hope this helps. --King of the Arverni (talk) 19:45, 10 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Quincy Market is named after the second mayor of Boston, Josiah Quincy, who established it to get the pushcarts out of the street. The City was more named after the family after the Merrymount portion of Braintree split off in the early 19th century to create Quincy. Riga1964 (talk) 12:17, 17 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Move discussion in progress

There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Quincy, Massachusetts which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. —RMCD bot 20:44, 27 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]