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Wilmette, Illinois was a Geography and places good articles nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There may be suggestions below for improving the article. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.

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Date	Process	Result
January 13, 2008	Good article nominee	Not listed

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Tom Miller

As far as WJHS goes, would mentioning Tom Miller be worthwhile? I can't decide whether it's notable or not. Peaceman 02:10, 10 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Who's Tom Miller? --flyhighplato 19:36, 11 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- He was a WJHS teacher who recently was arrested for having child pornography on his computer. It made local headlines and was on TV a couple of times. Peaceman 07:14, 12 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  - Personally, I'd say that doesn't really relate to the history of Wilmette. But it depends on how you treat it, I guess. If you have some sort of section for newsworthy events in Wilmette, it could work. --flyhighplato 00:58, 13 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    - why wouldn't you include Tom Miller. He is an important part of Wilmette right now.

Village name

Would somebody check the fact that Wilmette was named for Antoine Wilmette? I think this is wrong and the village was named for his daughter, Antoinette Wilmette, who sold her family's property and moved west.

Could someone also please check that Archange Wilmette was the daughter of Chief Sauganash? Having lived half my life a block from the Old Treaty Elm and the other half in Wilmette, I have never heard this. That is very curious to me, and I wonder about the source? Two obvious places to check are by phone at the Chicago Historical Society and at the Wilmette Historical Society. Nkb 2 April 2006

There is also "Wilmette: A History" by Bushnell, which should have some reference to both of the above. nufftin 3 April 2006

Blog list

It seems like the list of Wilmette blogs is becoming just a collection of bloggers, notable or otherwise, who happen to live in Wilmette. I can understand listing blogs that focus on local issues. I'm less impressed by the link between locally-based blogs that discuss international politics. Anyone mind if I trim this list back? Ronnotel 19:50, 12 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Putting the blogs back. There are not a lot of daily issues in Wilmette because not much happens. Both blogs provide coverage of local issues when there are issues to be covered. There is simply not enough going on locally to have a blog only locally focused. Both give a view into viewpoints common to Wilmette. Both can be searched for local issue coverage which is unavailable elsewhere. Additonally, both blogs have comments, and questions about Wilmette can be asked directly to people who live in Wilmette. 75.57.194.234 08:23, 3 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Antoin Rezko

I am going to delete this person because he has no significant value for Wikipedia. Does everyone agree because I will not do it if you disagree? He is pointless, in my opinion.DrSatan 23:08, 2 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

no objectionRonnotel 01:27, 3 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Then he's as good as done. Thanks for the speedy response, I get so many no responses from people... DrSatan 03:10, 3 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Nevermind, I didn't realize that he was a real person, so I kept him; his only label is and should be restauranteur though, nothing else. DrSatan 03:13, 3 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

K. Flaherty

75.4.152.235, the policy on whether someone is notable is provided here. Judging from her Wikipedia page, it seems like she has had some exposure by multiple reliable sources, and therefore meets the notability criteria. However, this really isn't the place to debate notability. If you think she should be removed, I would suggest nominating her page for deletion. Ronnotel 03:42, 29 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

North Shore as "district"

Not to repeat the unending discussion on what constitutes a North Shore suburb over on that page, but the North Shore is not a "district". According to M-W.com, a district is a "territorial division", and the Wiktionary sez "an administrative division of an area". The North Shore is neither. I don't think that deleting the word takes anything away from the sentence. Yes, there are secondary definitions that would be appropriate, but "area" would be more accurate. I'll leave "district" under protest -- :-). Nufftin 16:10, 17 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ryan Robey?

Who is Ryan Robey? No written or oral history about Wilmette makes any mention of Ryan Robey. I wonder if "star" is a subjective term. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.240.115.109 (talk) 08:33, 31 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Noticed the good article nomination

and put in the highest-income places in the United States sentence. The only other thing that I would suggest is a few more pictures, maybe of the churches mentioned, maybe of the El (I think this is the proper spelling) or train station, maybe Ann-Margret's house(!)

Smallbones (talk) 16:35, 2 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

See Chicago_'L'#.27L.27_or_El.3F to show that "L" is ok, but according to the Chicago Daily News Stylebook it was El (with no quotation marks) if I remember correctly. Smallbones (talk) 16:43, 2 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The point about more pictures is well-taken but those may have to wait until better weather. Wilmette is far more picturesque in June than in January. Ronnotel (talk) 19:22, 2 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

The article does not meet the Good article criteria, and unfortunately cannot be promoted at present. What is here is a good start, but there are significant issues, mostly with criteria 1 (prose/WP:MOS), 2 (verifiability), and 3 (completeness, broad in coverage). Many sections are simply too short, like history and transportation. Other topics are just absent, like culture (although attractions and architecture are part of this, other aspects of culture aren't there) and economy.

The lead/intro is also too short, and doesn't really provide a good summary of the article. It might help to review WP:LEAD for help with this.

I would recommend looking at WP:USCITY, which contains a good description/guideline for the topics and organization on a city article in the United States. The wikiproject, WP:CITIES, might also help as well.

Cheers! Dr. Cash (talk) 19:13, 13 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the feedback, Dr. Cash. Much appreciated. ~~One thing that might help with filling in the blanks is a pointer or two to GAs for similarly sized towns. Do you happen to know of any?~~ (never mind, found Neilston on my own) Thanks, again. Ronnotel (talk) 14:00, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'll modestly suggest Chambersburg, Pennsylvania, although there are still some problems there, it passed the original GA and a review. Neilston looks very good, and the WP:USCITY is an outstanding resource. That said, Dr. Cash looks to be "fair but strict." I'll suggest more history (check local library), footnotes, maps and pictures (i.e. standard advice - more of the same). Good luck Smallbones (talk) 14:59, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Demographics

I'm not sure I see what point is served by comparing relative incomes between Wilmette and Winnetka on this page. Can't the reader do that themselves by going to Winnetka? Ronnotel (talk) 21:23, 27 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Wilmette Neighborhoods

I have removed this section for a variety of issues, all of which can be fixed but will require some effort:

The section lacks sourcing. Without referencing the claims to published material, it simply becomes original research, which is not allowed in WP.
Too much focus on property prices. While the occasional reference to property values is allowed (if properly sourced), this section is far to reliant on comparing the neighborhoods by property value.
The section lends undue weight to the distinction of the neighborhoods. Again, there needs to be reliable sourcing that delineates the neighborhoods as described.

I think these issues can be addressed, but they will need to be before the material can be re-integrated. Ronnotel (talk) 01:58, 14 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Question: Into or out of?

"The canal drains out of Lake Michigan in Wilmette, near the Bahá'í House of Worship" from North Shore Channel. Not so clear, but that artcile suggests to me that the source of water is Lake Michigan, and then the water goes down the canal into the Chicago River and eventually into the Mississippi. This article seems to have it backwards "The North Shore Channel drainage canal empties into Lake Michigan at Wilmette Harbor." Smallbones (talk) 00:19, 27 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Having ridden by that exact area this afternoon on my bike, I can confirm that there is a drop of about 3 feet as the water flows across a dam at the mouth of the channel. The flow is definitely from the channel into the lake. Ronnotel (talk) 23:55, 4 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm afraid you are incorrect. If you read the page on the Chicago River, you will see that, while the river originally flowed into the lake, the flow of the river was successfully reversed in 1900 and the river now flows into the Mississippi.Tad Lincoln (talk) 07:45, 13 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'll take a picture the next time I'm there on a bike ride. A dam separates the canal from the harbor and the water level on the lake/harbor side is three feet below the water level in the canal. I'm not aware of any pumping station there but I may be wrong. Yes, I'm aware that the Chicago River flows from Lake Michigan towards the Mississippi. I'm not familiar enough with the hydro-dynamics of the canal to explain how it all works, but I'm pretty sure there isn't any water flowing up the three-foot differential at the Wilmette dam.

Handgun Ban Suspended

According to this article, the ban has been suspended by the local government due to D.C. vs. Heller. --UnneededAplomb (talk) 22:54, 27 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Beck Bennett

Beck Bennett is from Wilmette. Beck Bennett is most famous for interviewing children on AT&T's "It's Not That Difficult" commercial campaign. He is now a cast member of SNL.

http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Beck_Bennett

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Wilmette Library

The Library just underwent a $5million dollar renovation and there is no mention of it? Not even The Library before construction. I will get some refs etc and include on 4/29. Buster Seven Talk 07:58, 27 April 2016 (UTC).[reply]

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