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  • ... that William van Praagh pioneered the Oralist method for the education of the deaf in England? Source: 1.  Jacobs, Joseph; Harris, Isidore (1906). "van Praagh, William". In Singer, Isidore; et al. (eds.). The Jewish Encyclopedia. Vol. 12. New York: Funk & Wagnalls. p. 401. 2. Stiles, H. Dominic W. (18 November 2011). "Van Praagh & The Rise of Oralism". UCL Ear Institute & Action on Hearing Loss Libraries. University College London.
Created by Ploni (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 27 past nominations.

 Ploni💬  04:49, 31 December 2024 (UTC).[reply]

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General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: The article is new enough and long enough. Source verifies hook. No copyvio detected. Hook is cited. QPQ done. I like ALT1 better. I don't know what Oralist method is, so the first hook made me want to click on Oralist method and not the guy's name. I think ALT1 is very interesting. Approving ALT1. Nice work! ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 00:34, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Good point re: the first hook. It could be changed to
ALT0: ... that William van Praagh pioneered the lip-reading method for the education of the deaf in England?
(closer to how it appears in the first source) if that makes it more clear. Otherwise I'm fine with ALT1!  Ploni💬  15:14, 5 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I see. Was there not any lip-reading method at all in England before William van Praagh pioneered it? ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 20:11, 5 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
There certainly were precursors, notably the work of Gerrit van Asch (who studied alongside van Praagh in Rotterdam). Van Praagh is nonetheless considered to have "pioneered" the method in the literature (see e.g. tertiary sources like 1, 2).  Ploni💬  01:02, 6 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, that hook will work too. Although, in my personal opinion, I think some readers might still click on lip-reading method instead of his name. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 01:32, 6 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]