Talk:William III of Geneva
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This article contains a translation of Guillaume III de Genève from fr.wikipedia. (904256647 et seq.) |
Verification notes
[edit]Appears to have existed. Verified the name of the mother and father. Both have articles at fr. wiki. Name of mistress appears in some online genealogies, indicating that such a person existed; still working on the relationship. Elinruby (talk) 13:34, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
- Blatant hoax Starship 24 (talk) 20:17, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
Amatus was indeed a bishop of Toul. Saint-Georges-d'Espéranche existed and did belong to the counts of Savoy.Elinruby (talk) 13:40, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
John I of Chalon existed, was indeed a member of the House of Ivrea, and did have a daughter named Agnes who married William III of Geneva. Albanais existed, the Chateau de Charousse existed. Will continue to verify carefully but if there is a hoax here it's pretty subtle, and I am not seeing it so far. Elinruby (talk) 15:10, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
Matthieu de la Corbière exists and has written books about medieval Geneva. No wikipedia page though apparently Elinruby (talk) 09:09, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
Guichard VI de Beaujeu has a wikidata page but no article in any language. French-language article is well sourced, and the source I have looked at so far has an extensive discussion of these events. Still working on that. (Mémoires et Documents Publiés par la Société D'Histoire et D'Arcéologie) Elinruby (talk) 16:56, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
Verified and referenced the mistress and illegitimate son. Some of the war history is a bit intricate, with shifting alliances, and property exchanges. Still working on this but I need a bit of a break Elinruby (talk) 12:44, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
- The same person is writing this which is leading me to believe that it is the same person who wrote this article just on a different or possibly same account. S40052650 (talk) 20:49, 9 September 2022 (UTC)
- Many editors contributed to this article before Elin started working on it. Don't make accusations against other editors without very strong evidence, unless you really want to get blocked. -- Valjean (talk) (PING me) 20:56, 9 September 2022 (UTC)
It was listed as a translation in need of cleanup and that is where I encountered it. I did work on it in several separate sessions, yes, as I don't have a dog in this fight and was basically working on it pro bono. If there *is* a hoax I think it must be in the section about the land transfers, as I had had enough of it the article by the time I got there. Not saying there isn't a hoax, but I didn't find one, the French keep fantastic records, and I documented what i checked, in case anyone wants to go into it further. My current availability for this is very minimal.Elinruby (talk) 05:01, 13 January 2023 (UTC)