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I added genealogical information on William's wife, Elizabeth Arnold, including links to William Arnold (settler) and Benedict Arnold (governor) since both of these articles are being further developed.Sarnold17 (talk) 00:34, 2 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Reconstructed Y-DNA of William Carpenter of Rhode Island

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William Carpenter (Rhode Island) reconstructed Y-DNA is from two published sources online. Carpenter Cousins Y-DNA Project Group 2 - Table 1 links to Table 2 via red arrows on right side. The line showing for William is the group consensus or group mode. This is the reconstructed DYS markers.
http://www.carpentercousins.com/carpdna.htm#table1
http://www.carpentercousins.com/carpdna.htm#table2
http://www.carpentercousins.com/carpdna.htm#table3
http://www.carpentercousins.com/carpdna.htm#table4
Family Tree DNA
http://www.familytreedna.com/public/carpenter%20cousins%20%20dna/default.aspx?section=ycolorized
Reset markers to Y-DNA 111 and press enter to reset the page. Scroll right on Group 2 to see MODE markers. This is the reconstructed DYS markers. Jrcrin001 (talk) 18:23, 14 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

These are just web pages, not peer- or editor-reviewed reliable sources. Wikipedia was never intended to just parrot anything found on the internet. Agricolae (talk) 19:33, 14 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Genetic research

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The Carpenter Cousins Y-DNA Project[1] has conducted Genealogical DNA testing on twenty males with genealogical paper trails. Nine males who have incomplete genealogical data but match genetically were placed in subgroups of Group 2.[2] These twenty nine males are believed to be descendant of the immigrant William Carpenter (born about 1610) who settled in Providence, Rhode Island from England.

  • Comment: Below this line has been removed from the article because of Original Research/no Reliable Source. Yet it is nothing but a rewording and table form of what is published on line. I agree that FTDNA should also be cited. But OR & no reliable source? Could it be that the editor wanted citation for the deleted section?

The haplotype DNA testing of representative samples of members of Group 2 based on Single-nucleotide polymorphism or SNP testing reveals Haplogroup R1a1*.

Table 1 shows the reconstructed haplotype of William Carpenter (born about 1605) showing 74 Y-STR markers.

Table 1. - William Carpenter (ca1610 - 1685) reconstructed Y-STR haplotype
Y-STR Allele Y-STR Allele Y-STR Allele Y-STR Allele Y-STR Allele
DYS393 13 DYS390 25 DYS19 16 DYS391 10 DYS385a 11
DYS385b 14 DYS426 12 DYS388 12 DYS439 10 DYS381i 13
DYS392 11 DYS382ii 29 DYS458 15 DYS459a 9 DYS459b 10
DYS455 11 DYS454 11 DYS447 24 DYS437 14 DYS448 20
DYS449 32 DYS464a 11 DYS464b 14 DYS464c 15 DYS464d 16
DYS460 11 Y-GATA-H4 12 YCA-IIa 19 YCA-IIb 23 DYS456 16
DYS607 16 DYS576 20 DYS570 20 CDYa 33 CDYb 35
DYS442 14 DYS438 11 DYS441 14 DYS444 12 DYS445 11
DYS446 12 DYS461 11 DYS462 11 DYS463 11 Y-GATA-A10 13
DYS635 23 Y-GGAAT-1B07 9 DYS531 11 DYS578 8
DYS395a 16 DYS395b 17 DYS590 8 DYS537 12 DYS641 10
DYS472 8 DYS406s1 11 DYS511 10 DYS425 12 DYS413a 211
DYS413b 22 DYS557 15 DYS594 10 DYS436 12 DYS490 12
DYS534 13 DYS450 8 DYS481 24 DYS520 21
DYS520 21 DYS617 12 DYS568 11 DYS487 13 DYS572 11
DYS640 11 DYS492 12 DYS565 13
Notes: 1) See List of Y-STR markers for explanation of the markers.

Jrcrin001 (talk) 18:23, 14 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

A self-published family group website is not a WP:RS. And while we are at it, this is just WP:INDISCRIMINATE information that is not suitable for a general-purpose biography of the man. There is a genetic genealogy wiki site,[1] specifically created for this type of information, and that is the place this material belongs. Agricolae (talk) 19:42, 14 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ "Carpenter Cousins Y-DNA Project". Retrieved 2009-10-22.
  2. ^ "Carpenter Cousins Y-DNA Project - Table 1 - Group 2". Retrieved 2009-10-22.