Talk:Who Are You? (Buffy the Vampire Slayer)/GA1
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Nominator: Bennv123 (talk · contribs)
Reviewer: Sammi Brie (talk · contribs) 18:42, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
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Not much left, Bennv123. Just some copy tweaks. Really, really well done. The philosophical sourcing is a wonderful departure, and it clearly seems this episode left more than its mark on the series. Ping me when ready. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 00:37, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
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Copy changes
[edit]- Lots of WP:CINS commas to remove, starting with the lead:
- "Who Are You?" is the second half of a two-part story arc featuring the return of the rogue Slayer Faith (Eliza Dushku), and is a turning point in the character's redemptive arc.
Done
- In Buffy's body, Faith experiences love and acceptance from others, and realizes how unhappy her own life is.
Done
- Remove the colon in Whedon used the phrase: "Because it's wrong", said by Faith mockingly at first but with full conviction by the end, to convey her psychological transformation. This recurs later.
Done Removed both instances of colons before the phrase.
- Riley insists on being gentle with her and they have sex. Add comma after "her"
Done
- Giles' house Should be "Giles's" per MOS:'S
Done Also fixed another instance in the "Reception" section (Jack Francis's)
- To prepare for the swapped roles, producer Doug Petrie said the script gave both actresses a lot of direction, but that Gellar and Dushku also studied each other's mannerisms and brought their own interpretations to the screen. This sentence is a little awkward. Maybe To prepare for the swapped roles, producer Doug Petrie said the script gave both actresses a lot of direction, but Gellar and Dushku also studied each other's mannerisms and brought their own interpretations to the screen.
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- For this episode, Whedon wanted to explore what would happen if an embittered person like Faith was given the opportunity to ruin her nemesis Buffy's life, but instead found her own self-concept shattered through the experience of being Buffy. Remove second comma (CinS)
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- Philosophy professor Dean Kowalski and Forster both draw parallels to the thought experiment put forth in book two of Plato's Republic, which asks if it is more desirable to live as a moral person who is mistaken for an immoral one (as with Buffy-as-Faith), or an immoral person who is mistaken for a moral one (Faith-as-Buffy). Remove the last comma.
Done
- In Buffy's body, Faith spends significant time inspecting Buffy's appearance in a mirror, and also changes her hairstyle and dresses her in darker and more revealing clothes. Remove comma (CinS)
Done
- which is emphasized in the mirror scene through the use of jump cuts, and later alluded to by Tara's description of "Buffy"'s aura as "fragmented" Remove comma (CinS)
Done
- or Mammano, the acting was commendable for the most part but there were some out-of-character moments that were very jarring Add comma after "part"
Done
- BBC Cult TV's Kim took the episode as confirmation that Willow and Tara were in a same-sex relationship, and liked how the show handled their romance in a nonchalant manner, neither baiting controversy nor being too "PC". Remove first comma (CinS)
Done
Sourcing and spot checks
[edit]- 15: The weight of the shift in "Because it's wrong" and the "You're nothing! You're disgusting!" scene are both handled here. No issues.
- 22: Schudt's "basic moral truth" line and "Nietzschean shell" check out here.
- 23: Offline source. Instead doing
- 14:
Doug Petrie: I think in these two episodes, the writing and the acting are so thoroughly blended that it's impossible to separate one from the other. They were given a lot on the page but then both actresses created so much. You just can't script every mannerism. They studied one another and it's funny. David Fury was jokingly suggesting that the two-parter should have been called Faith Off. (laughs)
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- 28: Look of the Other and the view of us as others see us.
- 34: Everything checks out here.
Images
[edit]There are three images. One is an NFUR screencap of the mirror scene, which is discussed with critical commentary in the article and obviously irreplaceable with a free image. Freely licensed images of the actresses also clear. And there's even alt text. Love to see it.
- @Sammi Brie: Thanks for taking on this review. I'll wait for your initial review to be done before implementing any changes so as to avoid edit conflicts. Let me know if you need help accessing any of the cited sources. Bennv123 (talk) 00:25, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
- @Sammi Brie: I think I've addressed all the issues you've brought up. Let me know if there's anything else. Thanks for the thorough review. Bennv123 (talk) 01:36, 20 March 2024 (UTC)