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Johnny Depp's White Forefathers at Wall Street Journal
When white actors play other races at BBC
Hollywood’s Anime Whitewashing Epidemic: Nat Wolff to Star in 'Death Note' at The Daily Beast
Whitewashing? Hollywood under fire at The Straits Times
Why Fans Want Scarlett Johansson Removed From this Upcoming Film at GOOD Magazine
'Pan' Flop Proves Whitewashing Doesn't Boost Box Office at Forbes
An Examination of Native Americans in Film and Rise of Native Filmmakers – Whitewashing in Elon Journal of Undergraduate Research in Communications
Are Biblical Epics Epically Racist? in The New York Times
Is it time to boycott movies guilty of "whitewashing"? at Little White Lies
'Gods of Egypt' renews concern about inaccurate film casting at Associated Press
100 times a white actor played someone who wasn’t white at The Washington Post
Controversial casting choices of moviemakers at CBC News
From Emma Stone to Yul Brynner: 20 times Hollywood was guilty of white-washing movies at Metro
John Oliver Slams Hollywood’s Whitewashing Practices at Variety
How Hollywood Whitewashed the Old West at The Atlantic
The Guardian view on whitewashing in the movies: a failure of imagination at The Guardian
‘The idea that it’s good business is a myth’ – why Hollywood whitewashing has become toxic at The Guardian
The Scrutable West: Industry Bias, Whitewashing and the Invisible Asian in Hollywood at Paste
‘Annihilation’ and Hollywood’s Erasure of Asians
Spielberg’s Latinx ‘West Side Story’ Is Fighting Hollywood Whitewashing

References to use. Erik (talk | contrib) ^{(ping me)} 21:25, 17 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

"References to use"?

'user :Erik', are you the Wikipedia Thought Police? Do we need you to tell the rest of the community which sources to use on a subject that is inevitably contentious?

Some might consider sources like 'The Guardian' and 'BBC' to be biased.92.28.16.157 (talk) 19:43, 8 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

All sources are biased because there is no such thing as an impartial human 2406:E002:5FF1:C501:244B:C6AE:1A3B:CC42 (talk) 21:27, 11 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

"Dutch-Jewish actor Michiel Huisman plays a Turkish lieutenant."

which one is supposed to be the non-white one?

IDK where you're from, or what standards you're judging from, but in countries like Canada, Turks are considered "Asian" and thus, people of colour. If there are reliable sources calling his casting "whitewashing", then I don't see why it can't be added. Clear Looking Glass (talk) 11:13, 15 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Jewish people have their ethnic and genetic roots in the Middle East, while ancestry in the Republic of Turkey is largely from Southern Europe. You can read about this elsewhere on Wikipedia (Jewish roots, Turkish roots). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:197:900:93C0:F19B:2DE5:538A:FD63 (talk) 17:16, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Jews are not an ethnicity, and there is no scientific data determining them to have specific genetic identifiers. MutedL (talk) 02:50, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The article needs a significant revision

It's funny to see Sir Sean Connery on the list, given the famous memes comparing him to Ayatollah Khomeini. Jews have been hit the hardest — Jewish actors playing characters of other races (or even other Middle Easterners) are recognized as white, while non-Jewish actors playing Jews are already considered whitewashed. The absolute absence of any clear systematics, and as colleagues have pointed out — a purely American view of the subject, where people do not distinguish such radically different concepts as "ethnicity" and "race". Iktsokh (talk) 17:10, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that the list is problematic. My suggestion would be to drastically cut it down, and provide a few paragraphs of prose rather than a list. We should mention significant historical examples and ones that provide some illustration of the concept. We should collect the strongest sources about whitewashing, not about one individual film, and select our examples from those strong sources. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 17:30, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Things are especially bad with examples with Middle Eastern characters, given that most European and West Asian populations are de facto of the same race, just different anthropological types within it. For this reason, I've included a small clarifying footnote to make this point. Iktsokh (talk) 19:03, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, the list does have a good portion of nonsense, as well as clear cut iconic examples of what is meant; such as the Mickey Rooney/Tiffany role. I agree with above that the prominent, culturally iconic and undeniable examples be given, and cut away the endless chaff.Halbared (talk) 18:39, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I totally agree. Against this background, it is very strange to see the example of Mean Girls, where an actress of Jewish origin plays a Lebanese character. Or with the ethnic Italian Al Pacino who played the Cuban Tony Montana (as if Caucasian Cubans don't exist). Or Bradley Cooper as Leonard Bernstein... It's like people lost the thread of the narrative during editing and strayed from the point. Iktsokh (talk) 19:24, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]