Talk:White-lipped peccary

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Did you know... that groups of white-lipped peccaries (pictured) can drive away jaguars with their screaming and clacking of teeth?

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This has to be one of the smelliest animals on the face of the earth. I am not a biologist, but if you are, please make some entry on this. If you could bottle the smell and put it in a bomb, you could replace the entire nuclear arsenal. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 155.201.35.68 (talk) 18:41, 18 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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120km² equals 120 MILLIONS m² or 12.000ha; one can produce 60,000tons of soy bean (two cargo ships) per year in that area, witch is 40% grater than the land area of Miami; also, is not clear if that outrageous and mistaken number refers to 20 or 300 individuals. Anyone who really knows the subject must fix that absurd. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lrghelere (talk • contribs) 20:00, 15 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Dicotyles as a synonym?

it is possible that newer data (eg https://www.biotaxa.org/Zootaxa/article/view/zootaxa.4851.1.2) consider Dicotyles as a separate genus?--Estopedist1 (talk) 08:27, 11 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

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Reviewer: Mike Christie (talk · contribs) 13:53, 1 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I'll review this. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 13:53, 1 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

What's the evidence that File:Harde de pécaris à lèvres blanches dans le Parc amazonien de Guyane.png has been released under the stated licence? It is sourced to a website and I can't see anything on that website that says the image is licenced for reuse.

That's the only issue -- I had some minor prose comments but have copyedited myself rather than post them here. The article is quite short but seems broad enough in its coverage for GA; it does cover all the areas I would expect. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 14:23, 1 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry for being a bit late. I haven't been too active on WP lately. Unfortunately, I did not provide the file and have no idea if it's being used legally. I will gladly remove it, if that's what you'd recommend. --An anonymous username, not my real name (talk) 23:20, 4 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I think that would be the simplest way to handle it. Then I can pass this as a GA, and if you or anyone else clarifies the licensing for that picture it can be re-added later. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 00:37, 5 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed. Should be all ready. --An anonymous username, not my real name (talk) 02:38, 7 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Image is gone, so just a couple of spotchecks:

FN 16: OK.
FN 5: source: "The herds observed by Kiltie (315) in the Peruvian Amazon never had a proportion of juveniles greater than 20 percent"; article has "Studies of herds in the Peruvian Amazon found no herd with a proportion of juvenile peccaries greater than 20%"; too close to the original phrasing per WP:PARAPHRASE. The "greater than 20%" part can't really be rephrased, but can you do anything with the rest of the sentence?
FN 5: article: "T. pecari breeds year-round. The estrus cycle generally lasts about 18-21 days. After a gestation period of about 158 days, two young are usually born. They are capable of moving with the rest of the herd just hours after birth." The source has "They apparently breed year-round (287, 296, 336, 382). The usual length of the oestrus cycle is 18-21 days and the gestation period of 158 days (508) usually produces two young. The newborn peccaries are precocious and can follow the pack within a few hours." Similarities but they're pretty much unavoidable here, and sufficient paraphrasing is done.

Sorry to make you jump through one more hoop, but can you fix the second of these above? Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 02:52, 7 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Since there was just the one issue remaining I fixed it myself. Passing. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 10:25, 15 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Did you know nomination

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The result was: promoted by Theleekycauldron (talk) 07:04, 11 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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White-lipped peccary with youth

... that groups of the white-lipped peccary (pictured) can drive away jaguars with their screaming and clacking of teeth? Source: https://animals.sandiegozoo.org/animals/peccary Large groups of white-lipped peccaries have been known to counterattack a jaguar, unleashing alarm calls and teeth clashing to drive away the potential predator.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Getbol, Korean Tidal Flats

Improved to Good Article status by An anonymous username, not my real name (talk). Nominated by LordPeterII (talk) at 17:09, 20 September 2022 (UTC).[reply]

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Everything checks out, EarWig agrees no plagiarism. QPQ was done and already on main page.

Thanks for making this Good. I will be wishing the endangered little guys the best of luck. jengod (talk) 23:42, 27 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@LordPeterII and Jengod: I see two conflicting lower-level sources: one says they crack their teeth, another says they only clash them. Is there a scholarly source to break the tie? theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 23:23, 10 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I presumed (perhaps wrongly!) that they were synonyms for an animalistic gnashing of teeth. See: https://www.dentalcare.com/en-us/ce-courses/ce485/history-of-bruxism I will look into further shortly and get back to you unless Peter replies first. jengod (talk) 23:30, 10 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
please do! theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 00:04, 11 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Imma get you some science but looking around and watching this video Video on YouTube make it clear that either word is probably correct. Clicking and snapping are also used in various sources. In a completely fuzzy way I lean toward “clacking” but let me see if I can figure out the Official Answer. jengod (talk) 01:07, 11 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

OK so (1) There’s a video on this page of peccaries bullying jaguars. After hearing it I’m very comfortable with using either clack or crack their teeth. I personally prefer “clack.”

https://massivesci.com/notes/jaguar-peccary-predator-prey-video/

(2) some peccary science:

Kiltie and Terborgh (1983) listed the vocalizations of T. pecari as: low, resonating moans made by foraging adults; strident barks and staccato clacking of jaws during squabbles; raspy bleats made by both adults and juveniles; and sharp, deep barks as alarm calls by adults. Mayer and Brandt (1982) reported that white-lipped peccaries in the Gran Chaco of Paraguay produce a multiple-impact tooth chatter or clacking, but did not present counts of the number of impacts per group of tooth clicks. Sowls (1984) classified the sounds made by this species as (1) togetherness vocalizations: low rumbles, single or multiple loud barks, tooth clickings, and whines or complaining calls; and (2) aggressive vocalizations: grumblings (a blend of many sounds) and single or multiple tooth clicks

Tayassu pecari. By John .J Mayer and Ralph M. Wetzel Published 12 August 1987 by The American Society of Mammalogists http://www.bio-nica.info/Mammalia/Tayassu_pecari.pdf

“peccaries make a characteristic clacking sound with their teeth” Fowler's Zoo and Wild Animal Medicine, Volume 8. 2015 : 568–584. Published online 2014 Jun 25. doi: 10.1016/B978-1-4557-7397-8.00058-X PMCID: PMC7152257 Meg Sutherland-Smith

Like other peccaries, their vocal repertoire includes low-frequency barking, growling, moaning, high-pitched squealing, and tooth clacking. As groups forage and move through the understory, individuals emit soft vocalizations, facilitating group coherence. Alarm calls and teeth clashing are emitted when threats are detected; as multiple individuals emit alarm calls a threshold is reached at which point the whole group may take off, either together or scattering in subgroups, creating a confusing cacophony of sound and movement.

Tayassu pecari (Link, 1795) in GBIF Secretariat (2021). Global Biodiversity Information Facility Backbone Taxonomy. Checklist dataset https://doi.org/10.15468/39omei accessed via GBIF.org on 2022-10-11.

IN CONCLUSION, IMHO: crack or clash? the tiebreaker should be the portmanteau, which also happens to be scientifically accurate: clack

This was fun. Cheers, jengod (talk) 01:38, 11 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@jengod: absolutely beautiful, thank you. Above and beyond. So ordered, clack it shall be :) mind adding a citation to the article? theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 06:30, 11 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- Done x2 jengod (talk) 06:46, 11 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]