Talk:Westgate-on-Sea

Westgate-on-Sea is a former featured article. Please see the links under Article milestones below for its original nomination page (for older articles, check the nomination archive) and why it was removed.

This article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page as Today's featured article on August 13, 2020.

Article milestones
Date	Process	Result
May 22, 2007	Good article reassessment	Listed
May 22, 2007	Peer review	Reviewed
June 10, 2007	Featured article candidate	Promoted
December 26, 2020	Featured article review	Demoted
Current status: Former featured article

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GA review

In terms of factual accuracy and broad coverage the article easily meets the necessary criteria. WP:V, WP:NOR and WP:NPOV this article easily qualifies. In terms of coverage it seems to be about the right length and the right mix of topics.

The article would generally fail stability criteria as it is being changed fairly rapidly. However given that this change is primarily Epbr123 (talk · contribs). I'm tempted to be more lenient on stability. The rest of the editors seem to like the direction he's taking this article and thus there is a broad consensus on his changes. It probably would have been better to wait until after aggressive editing had stopped.

Stylistically it is more problematic. The article has a short clipped style some more attention should be spent on flowing the sentences together. Right now it reads almost like a list bullet points. An overly elementary style is not reason to disqualify an article from GA status but this well present a problem as the article progresses towards FA status. In terms of GA criteria the article is easy to read and very clear. I'm passing on this criteria but just barely. Editors should definitely focus on flow for the next round.

In terms of images I have to fail the article. We need more images of Westgate. There are some wonderful images in the references but we need about 2 in the main article. The tables are excellent but geography articles beg for photos. As a minor point, the poem ‘Westgate-on-Sea’ should be linked in the introduction as well. I'm going to fail the article (but just barely) and would urge the editors to resubmit quickly. jbolden1517 ^Talk 17:33, 19 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

2nd Review

This review occurred after resubmission. The article continues to be rapidly changing but the provision regarding consensus remains in effect. The few connection sentences are in the right direction and its my belief that this work will continue. The images resolve the image issue. Finally the link to the poem is now present which enhances notability. At this point I pass the article. Well done! jbolden1517 ^Talk 17:59, 22 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Maybe this should be in the article! Epbr123 23:36, 10 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I have hundred of images that you can find at http://www.flickr.com/photos/drmoores/sets/246031/ but I will try and add one here. DrMoores 14:06, 3 December 2008 (UTC) Simon Moores

Spoken version added

I have added a spoken version of this article; see the link above. Hassocks5489 (talk) 16:34, 16 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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FA Day comments

...a Royal Navy seaplane base was opened by the coast to defend the Thames Estuary naval towns against attack. It was at first used for both seaplanes and landplanes, but due to landing problems, a separate landplane base was opened... - This needs some explanation. On the face of it, landing problems for landplanes might have be predicted. So maybe it means something else.
...both have a sea wall and groynes to prevent coastal flooding. - unsourced, and is it true? Could it be (also?) coastal erosion. (And the natureonthemap.org citation hasn't functioned for years, I think)
the trust running the schools subsequently went into administration. Which ones? Westgate College and ....?
Davidships (talk) 01:13, 14 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Wrong church

The church pictured is not in the village of Westgate-on-Sea — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.120.191.60 (talk) 00:17, 29 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

It seems to be in Garlinge, I have removed it though some sources do seem at least to name it as being in Westgate-on-Sea. The text discussing St James's Church could perhaps be moved to Garlinge. Crouch, Swale (talk) 16:14, 17 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

FA in need of review

This is a Featured Article that was promoted in 2007 and has never been reviewed. It was recently on the main page, resulting in the prose comments above. Adding to these comments we have:

Several unsourced paragraphs (mainly in the History section);
A demographics section stuck in the 2001 census, with a tag asking for update since 2014;
An Economy section stuck in 2001/2002;
An unanswered claim above that one of the churches pictured "is not in the village of Westgate-on-Sea";
A Geography section that is very thin, with the first paragraph sourced to this (dead) link. Problem: this is a map; I don't know how this is supposed to source the sandy bays, and groynes, and chalk cliffs;
A "Notable Residents" section that should be in prose, instead of bullet points;
I have not reviewed the sources too closely, but I see some links that do not seem FA-level (ie. Musicweb, Schoolnet?, CinemaTreasures, etc).

In my opinion, the article does not meet current FA criteria. RetiredDuke (talk) 19:11, 5 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I couldn't agree more - when I read it in August I was shocked at how poor it was. The FA selection process certainly slipped up with this one. Davidships (talk) 01:39, 7 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]