Talk:Western Kentucky Hilltoppers football
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WKU/Western Kentucky naming
[edit]A discussion I've restarted at the main athletic program page, if anyone's interested. Kithira (talk) 22:09, 4 August 2014 (UTC)
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Project-wide naming conventions re History section
[edit]@MHS1976:
There is ongoing WP:DE of this article, including removal of an established, project-wide naming convention. Specifically, Wikipedia:WikiProject College football has created a general format for ~300 CFB team articles (Alabama Crimson Tide football, Akron Zips football, etc), inclusive of a "History" section with multiple "Coach Name era (19YY–19YY)" type subsections. As repeatedly noted, this naming convention can be observed on team articles such as linked at List of NCAA Division I FBS football programs.
In this specific article, the comprehensive use of "XYZ era" subsections is stable to 2014[1] and even earlier when the History section was smaller/contained fewer subsections. Changes to this established structure have been flagged with both DE and MOS:HEAD issues.
As such, I have both initiated this Talk (as your issues have project-wide relevance beyond this specific article) and reverted to the stable convention, pending further discussion of your concerns, here. To the extent there is a grammar issue(?), that would have project-wide implications rather than merely local to this specific article. What do you think? UW Dawgs (talk) 20:25, 25 June 2018 (UTC)
No excuse for using poor English. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by MHS1976 (talk • contribs) 18:30, 5 July 2018 (UTC)
@MHS1976: I've again reverted your edit to the 2014-onward stable version. Just as another editor has reverted you, previously. You are now again engaged in WP:DE and editing against both a local and project-wide format, as explained in this Talk section. A vague response of "poor English" isn't sufficient to overturn this consensus treatment -as nearly every CFB team article has this format, making your viewpoint an apparent outlier. Please do clearly explain and discuss your view, as there are project-wide implications. If you continue to impose your preferred version against this consensus without discussion, this will be escalated. UW Dawgs (talk) 19:46, 5 July 2018 (UTC)
@MHS1976: Per WP:BRD, your DE edit[2] has been reverted to the project-wide format, stable in this article since 2014. Please engage in discussion here, as your preferred format is non-standard. 20:29, 6 July 2018 (UTC)
@MHS1976: What say you? The content formatting was stable to 2014 and conformed with global CFB project naming conventions as used in our FBS and FCB team articles. UW Dawgs (talk) 02:11, 9 August 2018 (UTC)
Inappropriate use of the word era
[edit]@UW Dawgs:
Please stop using "era" to refer to coaching tenures of short duration, it is poor English. Era should be used to refer to long periods. I have been willing to compromise by not removing the word for tenures of 10 years or more, though I think it is a stretch to refer to Denes tenure as an "era". A more appropriate use of the word would be to refer to the Feix era at WKU as extending from his playing days through his post coaching career as Athletic Director (from the 1950's into the 1990's).
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