Talk:Warsaw radio mast/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Amitchell125 (talk · contribs) 21:00, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

Happy to review the article.

Thank you! Please communicate any concerns to me. BasedMises^{Mont Pelerin Society} 21:05, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

@Amitchell125 Not to rush you, but how does the outlook stand? BasedMises_{Mont Pelerin} 15:26, 24 May 2021 (UTC)

Hello BasedMises, the review is close to being completed this afternoon. Amitchell125 (talk) 15:31, 24 May 2021 (UTC)

Review

General points

• The article was once delisted, but I have not been able to find out why or when. The points raised when it was delisted need to be addressed before the article can be classed by me as a GA.

(talk page watcher) Don't worry about this, Amitchell125—it was nominated for GA at 19:05, 8 August 2006; it was promoted without discussion less than four hours later (and that's why this is GA1, not GA2), and "delisted" in the early hours of the following morning (due to a lack of references, which obvs no longer applies). All the best, ——Serial 16:19, 24 May 2021 (UTC)

• The article 'Maszt radiowy w Konstantynowie' in the Polish Wikipedia (https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maszt_radiowy_w_Konstantynowie) has information about the site since the collapse of the mast that would consider adding to the English article. There is also a link to an article about Polak which I would consider including in your article.

Wrong Polak, my mistake. AM

• Links to remove (see MOS:OL): Poland, United Arab Emirates.

N not yet sorted. Amitchell125 (talk) 16:14, 31 May 2021 (UTC)

• The technical terms in the article are underlinked. Links to add: impedance; cross section (Cross section (geometry)); interfering (Interference (communication)); welders; insulators (Insulator (electricity); grounded (Ground (electricity)); static charge; spark gap; air traffic warning lights (Aircraft warning lights); electrocuting; short circuit (not hyphenated); lattice tower; focused (Focus (optics)); condensation; substation (Electrical substation); over-engineered (Overengineering); soil conductivity (Soil resistivity); oscillations; strains (Strain (mechanics)); frequency (Radio frequency); kHz (Hertz); antenna (Antenna (radio)).

N not yet sorted. Amitchell125 (talk) 16:14, 31 May 2021 (UTC)

Lead section/infobox

• Link Polish.

N not yet sorted. AM

• The image in the infobox is of a rather poor quality (and is only 20kB).
• Amend voltage potential to ‘voltage’ (which should be linked).
• Copy editing issues - Warsaw Radio Mast or Warsaw radio mast?; (Polish: Maszt radiowy w Konstantynowie) but then (Centrum Radiowo-Telewizyjne). You need to be consistent.

N not yet sorted. AM

• There are multiple instances of text in the lead section not being included in the main article (see MOS:LEAD for guidance): It is the second tallest structure ever built; construction started in July 1970; completed on 18 May 1974; its transmitter entered regular service on 22 July. There may be other examples.

N not yet sorted. AM

• Consider linking Centrum Radiowo-Telewizyjne (Komitet do spraw Radia i Telewizji „Polskie Radio i Telewizja” from the Polish Wikipedia).

N not yet sorted. AM

1 Construction

• The first paragraph has three citations at the end, but there is no indication that the rest is referenced. You need to verify the text within the paragraph, not just at the end.
• The second paragraph has no references.
• Why is watts always written in full, but other units are not?
• the vertices of the mast - amend to 'the structure of the mast'.
• 'diameter', not diametre.
• 121.78 metres (399.5 ft), 256.78 metres (842.5 ft), 369.28 metres (1,211.5 ft), 481.78 metres (1,580.6 ft), and 594.28 metres (1,949.7 ft) above ground sounds excessively detailed to me.
• Convert 600 metre long.
• What is "an asymmetrical coaxial power supply"?
• What is the significance of "(Jedynka)"?

3 Staff

• Most of this small section consists of unnecessary detail and can be deleted. I would retain The mast had a total of 30 engineers and technicians. It also had 15 administrative staff. and The facility also had a compliment of guards, putting it elsewhere in the article and then deleting this section.

4 Collapse

• The image is not of high enough quality.
• The second paragraph is uncited.
• Convert 640 metres.

5 Replacement

• of the radio mast at Konstantynów due to an incident with the guy wire replacement should be deleted (it has already been explained).

6 Current state (1991-present)

• The gallery of images are imo unnecessary and can be deleted.
• I would remove the link for Orange Polska (duplicated link).
• What is a "quasi-tourist attraction"?

7 In Popular Culture

• 'Guinness', not Guiness
• Title – 'popular', not Popular.
• has been featured in multiple stamps – the prose needs to be improved here.
• This section is not the right place for the first sentence.

8 See also

• Some of the links are already included in the main text – they don’t belong in the ‘See also’ section’.

9 References

• The formatting of this section needs attention, as the citations do not follow a consistent style (see WP:CITESTYLE and WP:CITEVAR). In particular:
  • all-numerical dates should be avoided;
  • there are dead links which need to be either repaired or replaced (Refs 10/20/36);
  • there are other links that lead to the wrong place (Refs 19/27(?)/29).
• Most of the citations are from web pages, see WP:CITEWEB for what information should if possible be included, and how to format the citations, as this has not yet been done.

10 External links

• Check your external links (see WP:EL for guidance), as some of them do not contain “information that could not be added to the article for reasons such as copyright or amount of detail”.

On hold for a week

Hi BasedMises, there is a lot of work to be done before the article can be promoted. I'm putting it on hold for a week until 1 June, to allow time for the issues listed in this review to be addressed. Amitchell125 (talk) 16:17, 24 May 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for the suggestions! I would like to mention that the Warsaw Radio Mast has very few photos associated with it, and that it is likely impossible to get to a high standard for that. I will attempt to improve the article. Thank you for the suggestions! BasedMises_{Mont Pelerin} 16:25, 24 May 2021 (UTC)

Please ignore the comment I made about wanting to know why the article was delisted. AM

@Amitchell125 is it okay if the photos are bad (there are very few photos that are available)? BasedMises_{Mont Pelerin} 01:56, 26 May 2021 (UTC)

Hi, I looked online to try and find better images, and (your are right) there's little out there of any good. The current images will be fine, I'm sure (Wikipedia's advice is to prefer poor images to no images if nothing better can be found). Amitchell125 (talk) 14:33, 26 May 2021 (UTC)

@Amitchell125 I have resolved the issues. I looked through every source to find a date, name of some sort, publishing company, as well as denoting whether or not said page is in Polish or not. I have fixed the issues described. I also revised the lead section a tiny bit. BasedMises_{Mont Pelerin} 23:30, 30 May 2021 (UTC)

@BasedMises: there are clearly still issues yet to be resolved, and I'm afraid the article will be failed within a day or two if they are not. I'll check through the article some more once you have contacted me to say it is ready for me to continue. Amitchell125 (talk) 16:25, 31 May 2021 (UTC)