Talk:Herbie Herbert

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"Self-Proclaimed Hippie"

Here's the thing: although he calls himself a hippie, his career as a manager was money-oriented, which is not hippie-like. He has also said "you gotta' make hay while the sun shines" (Matt Carty interview). Perhaps we should point this out. Thoughts? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dave Golland (talk • contribs) 14:57, 30 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I think going into much more detail in this regard could make the article come off as biased, as his alleged personal disposition towards money (or how we interpret it) is probably less essential than his concrete accomplishments and actions. Though it is difficult to resist a good 'hippie-turned-yuppie' joke. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fred.Pendleton (talk • contribs) 19:20, 6 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 3 November 2021

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Moved — Amakuru (talk) 11:16, 11 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Walter Herbert (manager) → Herbie Herbert – Firstly, WP:ATDAB suggests that parenthetical disambiguation should be a last resort, not a first resort. Unfortunately, this is widely disregarded throughout the encyclopedia and was also disregarded here when the article was moved to its current title in 2009 without discussion. Some people around here are a little too enamored with job titles, so I can understand why. I've always heard him referred to as Herbie Herbert, not Walter Herbert. Googling "herbie herbert" music manager -wikipedia produces slightly more hits than "walter herbert" music manager -wikipedia. Far more importantly, examining those results, reliable news sources reporting on his death overwhelmingly favor referring to him as Herbie Herbert. I didn't examine the hits to see how many mentions of Walter Herbert were Wikipedia mirrors which escaped the filter I used in the search dialogue. The folks over at ITN continue to demonstrate their fraudulent notion of "article quality" that this wasn't considered before it was put on the main page. We have something called WP:NOTBUREAUCRACY, yet it doesn't seem to mean anything if every single improvement has to be subjected to a separate process. RadioKAOS / Talk to me, Billy / Transmissions 05:14, 3 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Support. Although there's nothing wrong with parenthetical disambiguation, in this case the proposed name does appear to have been his WP:COMMONNAME. And "manager" is a terrible disambiguator in any case. Although note that the article was moved to its present title from Walter Herbert, not Herbie Herbert, in order to allow the former to become a disambiguation page, which is perfectly acceptable and didn't need discussion. It was never entitled Herbie Herbert. -- Necrothesp (talk) 14:29, 3 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Dave Golland (talk) 20:54, 9 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.