Talk:WNYO-TV

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Article milestones
Date	Process	Result
August 5, 2023	Good article nominee	Listed
January 15, 2024	Good topic candidate	Not promoted

A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on August 17, 2023.

The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that a division of the Buffalo Sabres hockey team lost $6 million in less than three years running a TV station?

Current status: Good article

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GA Review

Passing, article is good! Adog (Talk・Cont) 16:16, 5 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

This review is transcluded from Talk:WNYO-TV/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Adog (talk · contribs) 21:20, 3 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Criteria: 1a. prose () 1b. MoS () 2a. ref layout () 2b. cites WP:RS () 2c. no WP:OR () 2d. no WP:CV ()

3a. broadness () 3b. focus () 4. neutral () 5. stable () 6a. free or tagged images () 6b. pics relevant ()

Note: this represents where the article stands relative to the Good Article criteria. Criteria marked are unassessed

I will review this article during this week after my next GAN review is complete or near completion. Likely to fully review by Saturday, August 5. Adog (Talk・Cont) 21:20, 3 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The following are suggested corrections for the prose for the editor-at-large. If the suggestions for grammar and/or sentence structure are not proper or inappropriate, you may disregard:

Prose

Lead

While TVX Broadcast Group handled much of the construction of the station ... "construction of the station" could be "station's construction".
The first owner of the station was Aud Enterprises ... "first owner of the station" could be "station's first owner".
In 1990, under a deal brokered the previous year, the Sabres games, Fox programming, and syndicated shows seen on WNYB-TV moved to WUTV ... "seen" may be omitted.
The station produced its own local newscast from 2004 to 2006 as part of Sinclair's News Central service and then aired local news programming produced for it by Buffalo NBC affiliate WGRZ from 2006 to 2013. "for it" can be omitted.

History

Permitting

... Bison City's application was initially dismissed by an FCC administrative law judge because of a failure to established ownership, but the company successfully appealed. could possibly be ... an FCC administrative law judge initially dismissed Bison City's application because of a failure to establish ownership, but the company successfully appealed.
... it attempted to secure financing in order to go on air in 1984 ... "in order to" to "to".

TVX: ownership but not operation

In the statement: ... TVX acquired five major-market independents from Taft Broadcasting. Not sure if "major-market" needs that hyphen.
- It's an adjective here, so yes.

Sabres ownership

In addition to syndicated reruns and movies, as well as the Sabres, WNYB-TV aired Buffalo Bisons minor-league baseball. "aired Buffalo Bisons minor-league baseball" runs a bit awkward. Maybe consider broadcasts of Buffalo Bisons minor-league baseball games.
Fox and WUTV had a falling out in 1989 over performance ... "the" should be inserted before "performance".
Further, WUTV felt that the airing of Fox programming by CHCH-TV in Hamilton, Ontario, with what its general manager called the approval of the Fox network, caused unnecessary duplication because of the proximity of Hamilton to Buffalo and the availability of the Hamilton station on Buffalo-area cable systems. I feel like "with what its general manager called the approval of the Fox network" could be deleted. It seems like a quote but is not. The sentence reads a bit better without it.
... cutting into the station's ability to sell advertising against its large Canadian audience. "large" to "sizeable"?
- Left this one as is. The main thing is that all the people in Southern Ontario dwarf the Buffalo market.

Consolidation with WUTV; sale to TCT

In June 1990, the FCC approved of the WUTV sale to Act III, granting a one-year waiver to Act III to allow it to sell off WUHF; it had already approved of the WNYB-TV sale ... both instances of "of" can be omitted?

Grant ownership

While TCT began the process of building a full new physical plant ... "a full" to "an entire"?
- Honestly, I just tossed it.

Sinclair ownership

Unlike with channel 23, in acquiring WNYO-TV, it acquired an existing station with a building, programming, and staff. I would replace the latter "acquire" with "obtained" or "received" to reduce repetition.

Newscasts

The sports portion was later downsized, which did lead to a ratings increase. "ratings" to "rating"?
- Nope, not here.
WGRZ continued to produce the newscast for air on channel 29 until July 2021, when Sinclair opted to instead produce the newscast ... "to instead produce the newscast" to "to produce the newcast instead"?

References

1, "NHL Preview '97 18" to "18"?
- Named section — nope. The special section is named "NHL Preview '97".
73-76, should only one "RabbitEars" be linked?
- We do this for lists of 1.0 subs associated with 3.0 stations because RabbitEars lists everything by the multiplex it's actually on.

Other comments or issues

I got through a skim through of the article for the above and checked some things below. Tomorrow I will fully review the article's contents and do further spot checks for sources. The article looks great! Adog (Talk・Cont) 07:08, 5 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

MOS:DUPLINK "Rochester" in "Consolidation with WUTV; sale to TCT". Original in "TVX: ownership but not operation".

@Sammi Brie:, the only comment I have for my review is at the beginning of "history": ... the construction permit was deleted in January 1971. "Deleted" is ok, but "scrapped" or "dropped" might work better. Other than that, the article passes! I liked reading the article. You do not really hear much about the history of a local station. I pick sources up from them all the time but never had thought to dive into their history. This had a keen one. Adog (Talk・Cont) 16:16, 5 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Adog: I now have 76 GAs, most of them broadcasting stations; 15 more GANs; and another 135 or so articles to nominate. (And radio and TV stations are the majority of my 600+ DYKs.) This is my specialty. And good thing, too—the articles we have on TV stations are often quite bad. I've corrected some pretty egregious errors in this process. This article (and WPSG) are actually part of a planned Good Topic on Milton Grant that is inching quite close to being reality (only WFXR and WWCW are left to be claimed by a reviewer—two articles that demand to be taken together). Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 16:25, 5 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Well written + broadness + focus

The article is well written with only minor grammar or sentence structure swaps. The article is broad in scope and has a focused narrative. Spot checks are clear for reference-to-content. The article has no original research issues. It is ready for a pass! Adog (Talk・Cont) 16:16, 5 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Verifiability

The article is verifiable with a variety of reliable sources. The reference layout is proper according to the editor's preference. According to Earwig, there is likely no copyright problems. Similar check spots do not divulge anything. Adog (Talk・Cont) 07:08, 5 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Images + stability

The article has pertinent images that help to illustrate the subject. Images are properly licensed with the correct paperwork. The article is also stable, with no ongoing disputes or edit warring. Adog (Talk・Cont) 07:08, 5 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Handled pretty much everything so far. Thanks for helping tighten up the prose especially! Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 08:26, 5 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Bruxton (talk) 18:07, 8 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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... that a division of the Buffalo Sabres hockey team lost $6 million in less than three years running a TV station? Source: https://www.newspapers.com/clip/115882274/sabres-buffalo-is-12th-in-attendance/
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Mike Venaani

Improved to Good Article status by Sammi Brie (talk). Self-nominated at 23:18, 5 August 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/WNYO-TV; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

QPQ: Done.

Overall:

Epicgenius (talk) 15:18, 7 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]