Talk:WAEC (AM)
This article was nominated for deletion on November 8, 2004. The result of the discussion was speedy keep (one year and four months after nomination! Woo hoo!). |
Rationale for deletion of disambiguation page
[edit]Per the WP:Disambig page, "If only a primary topic and one other topic require disambiguation, then disambiguation links are sufficient, and a disambiguation page is unnecessary." Since the radio station call letters are the primary identification and the acronym for a not-for-profit examination board for education in Africa is a secondary identification, a hat note is sufficient and requires no more steps than would a disambiguation page for people seeking the examination board. - Dravecky (talk) 09:32, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
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[edit]I have nothing against this station, but this entry clearly reads as a "copy and paste" from the station website.192.127.94.7 (talk) 21:47, 9 September 2011 (UTC)
- I noticed it too, and did a quick rewrite for neutral POV. Seems it was done by station staffers. Also merged WERD article into this one.--Fightingirish (talk) 14:28, 7 December 2011 (UTC)
Please start a discussion before making such a major edit
- WERD is an historically important US radio station and stands on its own as a encyclopedic article. The merge and redirect is uncalled for. The successor station is ntoable only for its exsistence, and has no historical significance. A discussion should have been started BEFORE a major edit as you have just made. I am reverting your edit, and I ask you begin a discussion here about any changes you think necessary.
Neonorange 19:18, 7 December 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Neonorange (talk • contribs)
- I'm not saying that WERD is not notable by itself. As it stands right now, it is a very small article with very few links to it. The formatting is not up to Wikipedia standards and has little substance that can't merely be put into the WAEC article. There are also very few edits on it over the past five years. Articles typically are assigned to frequencies and licenses, rather than a particular call sign on a frequency. Therefore, you will often find various incarnations, formats and call signs on these articles. Some of them happen to be more famous than WERD. The frequency license currently held by the owner of WAEC is the very same one that WERD had, only thing is is that it has been sold several times over the years. Same facility ID as well. That's how radio works.
- There are exceptions to the article sharing, such as when the frequency has been home to two distinct incarnations (such as WNBC (AM) and WFAN, both on the same frequency in New York. Both are very notable and enough has been written about both stations that could easily create two big articles.
- If you can write a better article on WERD and really flesh it out, then you might have a better case. As it stands right now, this article serves very little purpose. Might I suggest you check WikiProject Radio Stations to see what good radio station-related articles should include.
- As for the merge, Wikipedia editors are encouraged to make bold edits, provided they make sense. And this article has obviously needed one for a long time. --Fightingirish (talk) 19:44, 7 December 2011 (UTC)
- Here's another example. KUXL in Minneapolis is another historic station. At one time, it was run by Wolfman Jack. However, that article and the one for it's successor call sign, KYCR, were both too weak to stand on their own. Therefore, I combined the two. And they work well together.--Fightingirish (talk) 11:34, 8 December 2011 (UTC)
Merge proposal
[edit]As stated in the discussion above, while this station may be historically significant, there's not much reason for it to be a stand-alone article, particularly since the successor station (same broadcast license) is still in existence. Tried to merge on my own the other day and copied info to that article, but was reverted. This one should be a redirect. --Fightingirish (talk) 13:57, 9 December 2011 (UTC)
- Oppose merge and redirect.
- This proposal should appear in the talk page of the article proposed for merge and redirect( talk:WERD ) not ( talk:WAEC ). That isn't possible now because you blanked the talk:WERD page when you merged and redirected AND changed the article name to 'WERD (defunct) ', thus blanking the original talk:WERD contents. So this merge proposal now has to go on talk:WERD (defunct).
- The subject 'WERD' has significance outside the narrow category of US radio stations. Merging under a 'radio station call sign' article with no relationship other than a purely bureaucratic detail (passing of a broadcast license) buries the historical significance of 'WERD' to African American Culture and to the civil rights movement. The article 'WERD' is within the scope of WikiProject Georgia (U.S. State). There is no reason to claim that WikiProject Radio Stations trumps WikiProject Georgia (U.S. State).
- Improving the 'WERD' article is a good thing.
- Deleting the article just makes it harder to improve.
- Redirecting and merging into a very tenuously connected article is a bad thing.
- --Neonorange (talk) 19:11, 9 December 2011 (UTC)