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Villa

Please leave this page for the villa which does indeed give the link to the museum with full information. The Villa has been known on its own for years and we've been through this before. Please do not again do a redirect without discussion on this page. Thanks. Doc 05:00, 20 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Should this be merged with Vizcaya Museum and Gardens?

Pretty much the same place - I've been there - Marc Averette 03:09, 11 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Not in my opinion. My thought would be that this article should be expanded on its original ownership, the archetect, the influence in the community etc. of this landmark home before it became a park. The museum article should focus on acquisition and development of the property as a museum and what it provides the public today. That would be my take, but it would be interesting to hear other thoughts. Doc ♬ talk 03:23, 11 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

If it gets long then we might consider splitting it, but right now we have two stubs. I looked it up on this popularity checker and it shows this one page is more popular. This page also has a longer history then the other one so I am merging it here.--Jorfer 00:02, 14 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. I never understood why there were two separate articles anyway. It'd be like, I dunno, the grounds of the Biltmore Estate having it's own article or something. I think there's more of a potential for a GA article with the combined info anyway, rather than one based on either.

Vizcaya is one of the few things I do miss about not living in Miami anymore, but oh well... :) --Ebyabe 13:10, 21 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, the administration at Vizcaya Museum and Gardens would prefer that these pages be merged with "Vizcaya Museum and Gardens" remaining as the main reference for branding purposes. For further consultation, please email marketing@vizcaya.org. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.165.177.4 (talk) 16:15, 8 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Not a replica, and not Venetian

The Villa Viscaya manor house is absolutely not a replica of any other house, villa or palace that exists elsewhere. It is an original work of architecture (and a very fine one at that) that incorporates elements of Italian Renaissance and Baroque style. Where did the author of this article get his or her information? Of course, no sources are cited. Furthermore, the Venetian style is an entirely differant style. Perhaps the author confused it with the opulent estate in Sarasota, Florida of John and Mabel Ringling called "Ca'd'Zan" which most definately resembles and was inspired by the Venetian style. Yes, they were members of the Ringling Brothers Circus business.

Mention should be made that this palational villa is surrounded by outstanding formal gardens, statuaries, fountains, hidden grottoes, etc. The grounds are gorgeous and they deserve more mention. Sadly, major damage from hurricanes has left in ruins such monuments as the sculptural breakwater barge in the bay that was designed to be an allegorical representation of Cleopatra's Barge, and the Peacock Bridge, which spanned a small canal that divides the estate with land now occupied by Mercy Hospital.

Finally, in my opinion, note should be made that Viscaya was selected as the setting where then President Ronald Reagan formally welcomed Pope John Paul II on the pontiff's first visit to Miami. 69.139.182.222 04:14, 13 February 2007 (UTC)buddmar[reply]

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Should this be merged with Villa Vizcaya?

Pretty much the same place - I've been there - Marc Averette 03:08, 11 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Not in my opinion. They are the same place, but different subjects. This article should focus on the public use of what was a private landmark home. Its acquisition and development as a public space and what it represents today. The Villa article should focus on the building of the house, the architect, the owner and his involvement in the area at the time etc. Doc ♬ talk 03:27, 11 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Oh. I was just curious, since they deleted my old Parrot Jungle entry and merged it on Parrot Jungle Island and those are two different places, as a matter of fact the old park is still open as Pinecrest Gardens. Seems like a bit of a double standard here. - Marc Averette 03:41, 11 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It was just "Vizcaya", without any differentiation, as far as I remember. I went there several times before moving from Miami. I was surprised to see two separate articles for it. I think it should be merged, with sections devoted to different parts of it's history. For example, like The Barnacle. Just my two cents...

Notability claim

"...internationally-known architect F. Burrall Hoffman." Is this from a travel brochure? This is Hoffman's single masterpiece. But "internationally-known"? No. --Wetman 16:56, 27 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I saw a travel brochure with it in it in Argentina if that means anything.--Jorfer 16:48, 28 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Heading for the Vizcaya Heist

The article about Vojislav Stanimirović has a link to the heading "The Vizcaya Heist". This heading appears to have been changed in the article to "1971 robbery", but the sources I can access (one is blocked) do not describe the "heist" in sufficient detail to say if the crime was a robbery, burglary or a theft. They only say that the arrested people were found in possession of stolen items. While one source uses the term "robbery", this can sometimes be used in error to refer to a theft or a burglary. What distinguishes a robbery from a theft is that a person was threatened with violence or the application of force in order to steal the property, while a burglary would be committed if the stealing was effected as a result of the thieves entering the building while it was closed to the public. Just a theft would have happened if the property was stolen while the building was open to the public and nobody realised the property had been taken until the thieves had left. What were the circumstance of the "heist" and was it really a robbery, or just a theft or burglary that occurred? Who was threatened or hurt if it was a robbery? These facts should be mentioned in the article to establish the nature of the crime. What one source says happened is not enough to say if the source is correct in using the term to describe the crime accurately. - 203.96.84.33 (talk) 01:16, 29 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]