Talk:Vivian Della Chiesa

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The article still reads like it was copied directly out of an obituary, but since the source isn't online, I can't confirm it. In any case, it is not written in an encyclopedic style. Cheers, CP 23:09, 21 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The Long Island obituary was linked to this article a few days ago, but it is gone now. I hope I printed it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vocalmusicpa (talk • contribs) 16:37, 17 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

1. Did not figure out the markup language way to do the references. Will return to fix this if this first attempt at Wikipedia editing survives the editor. 2. The approximate birth year is appropriate at this point. The Current Biography article gives a birth date of October 9, 1915, with a “(?)”. Opera News says September 10, 1915. Neither of these is possible if she was 94 at her death. 3. The only date I have for the singing contest is 1935, from two sources. The previous statement that she was 16 has to be questioned. Vocalmusicpa (talk) 21:51, 26 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

OK, the references are in the text. Not quite what I wanted. Will continue to work on this. Markup language is not transparent to some of us!! Vocalmusicpa (talk) 21:41, 27 March 2009 (UTC) Finally got the footnotes in. Thanks for your patience. Vocalmusicpa (talk) 16:17, 30 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I see that Singingdaisies has put a birth date in, adopted from Opera News. I have found a different birth date in each source giving a date, and I suspect that the real date must be earlier than October of 1915. I preferred the "circa" notation to indicate uncertainty. At this point I would not trust the death certificate birth date, which one could get, either. Anyone want to find the birth certificate or a church registry entry? Singers are prone to advance their birth dates. How does Wikipedia settle issues like this? But thanks for the rest of the cleanup. It is a better read now. ~~ —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vocalmusicpa (talk • contribs) 21:09, 22 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I wasn't aware that there was a conflict in dates. Thanks for bringing this to my attention. Would you mind providing the sources for the other dates here? Perhaps we can come up with a good solution. I would hesitate to put in a circa unless a source can be found that uses a circa. A better solution might be to use a footnote explaining the discrepancy in dates and go with the date from the source which seems the most accurate in the lead. Otherwise we are verging on WP:OR. P.S. Thanks for the compliment. The rest of the article still needs some more cleanup though.Singingdaisies (talk) 21:22, 22 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]