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Filmography changes

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Rappe is incorrectly credited with appearing in Clara Kimball Young's "The Foolish Virgin" and in Arbuckle's "His Wedding Night." The Young film is lost, but was filmed at Fort Lee on the east coast during the Spring of 1916; Rappe was in Hollywood during this time.

The Arbuckle film "His Wedding Night" has recently been given a commercial release; although Virginia Rappe is credited as "pretty lady in car" neither of the two young women in the car is Virginia Rappe. This short was also filmed on the east coast at the same time that Rappe was filming Balshofer's "Paradise Garden" in Hollywood.

There is photographic evidence that Rappe appeared in "A Game Lady" and "His Musical Sneeze" but none exists for "The Kick in High Life." Although the imdb credits Rappe with appearing in the Lehrman film "Wet and Warmer," this short was shown at Cinecon this year--she does not appear in the film.Joan Myers (talk) 03:02, 16 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Does anyone know what documents verified her true birth year as 1891? She gives various different birth years on many documents such as the 1920 Census:


You have saved this record to My Ancestry (Shoebox). You have saved this record to My Ancestry (People I'm Looking For). This record has been added to your shoebox. 1920 United States Federal Census about Virginia Rappe Name: Virginia Rappe Home in 1920: Los Angeles Assembly District 63, Los Angeles, California Age: 22 years Estimated Birth Year: abt 1898 Birthplace: Illinois Relation to Head of House: Boarder Father's Birth Place: New York Mother's Birth Place: Virginia Marital Status: Single Race: White Sex: Female Able to read: Yes Able to Write: Yes Image: 734 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Henry Lehrman 33 Ida Loflour 24 Virginia Rappe 22

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View original image —Preceding unsigned comment added by Stutzey (talkcontribs) 22:35, 15 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

"His Musical Sneeze" is is the Danish Film Institute and can be viewed online: http://www.dfi.dk/faktaomfilm/nationalfilmografien/nffilm.aspx?id=41086. Rappe gets screen credit. Saxophobia (talk) 12:39, 15 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Link added as a citation for the film (at Filmography table). Alexcalamaro (talk) 12:47, 29 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

pronunciation

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Is it RUP-ay or ruh-PAY? kwami 06:52, 2 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It is correctly pronounced "Rap-PAY." It is a Swedish (or ultimately Germanic) name. Sorry for not responding more quickly, I did not see this until today.Joan Myers (talk) 03:02, 16 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Original Sun Kist Raisin Model?

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I thought that I had once read that she was the original model for Sun Kist raisins. Can anyone confirm this? 70.246.239.34 (talk) 22:46, 8 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Incorrect Information

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I was watching an episode of bio HD's Haunted History entitled "Haunted Hollywood" original air date of 08/25/2000 which included information on Virginia Rappe. It peaked my interest, and I discovered discrepancies with the Wikipedia article compared to that of the television program. The television program reported her birth as 1895, and her death at the age of 25, not 30. They showed a picture of her headstone. The wikipedia article lists her birth as 1891. The article also claims there were 3 trials, when, according to the television program, there were only 2 trials. I don't know how to correct this, but I wanted to make you guys aware of the two errors of the article. Amy C-H 2/19/201172.191.55.230 (talk) 21:18, 19 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

There were three trials. The first was 10-2 for aquittal, the second was 10-2 for conviction, the third was a unanimous acquittal. I would suggest that it's Haunted History that is in error, rather than the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.193.128.193 (talk) 04:38, 29 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Here's a picture of her headstone, which appears to verify the 1895 date: http://www.seeing-stars.com/imagepages/virginiarappegravephoto.shtml Of course, headstones can be wrong too. John2510 (talk) 20:55, 31 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Does anyone have an authoritative source for the 1891 birthdate? sydbarrett74 (talk) 06:51, 10 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Who was Virginia Rappe?

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I leave this link here in case anyone wants to use it.

  • Michallon, Clémence (8 September 2020). "Who was Virginia Rappe? The true story of the rising career and shocking death of a 1920s star – and the Fatty Arbuckle trial". Independent. Retrieved 8 September 2020.

--Malcolmxl5 (talk) 19:06, 8 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Wrong birth yaer

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Her tombstone says she was born in 1895 making her 26 years old when she sadly passed away! Her wiki page says she was born in 1891 making her thirty! Please correct the inaccurate information for this beautiful lady gone too soon! 2601:681:4503:AB10:35EA:F2D3:9D79:D09 (talk) 22:24, 7 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

She was born in 1891 according to her birth certificate. I got it from Familysearch, which I did provide.

Graves and tombstones were not sources as they were listing wrong years, wrong names and anything. I guess you can’t check the Familysearch link because you cannot accessing her birth certificate. While Familysearch may not be perfect and yes not reliable, it did provide documents such as censuses and birth certificates that resolving birthdate disputes. ZiggyStarduxt829 (talk) 08:59, 22 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Illegal abortion

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I heard she actually died because of a botched abortion. 47.138.92.43 (talk) 08:03, 31 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

UTIs do not lead to bladder rupture?

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Or at least, the article about them doesn't mention anything about them doing so, and an internet search didn't bring up anything like that, either - it seems that bladders only rupture when injured. While I suppose it would be against policy to mention the conclusion that she therefore must have been injured, it does seem relevant to mention that UTIs do not cause bladders to rupture(unless someone has some evidence that they do). Branwen Cielocanto (talk) 07:27, 15 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have just watched a television show which stated that the hotel doctor inserted a very large glass non-flexible catheter into Rappe's bladder, which may well have ruptured it. Jersey Jan (talk) 04:37, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Rappe's Character

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I have heard it stated by serious historians that Rappe was an alcoholic who was intoxicated frequently, had a history of going into hysterics and tearing her clothes off when intoxicated, had had five abortions by the time she was 16, had a history of venereal disease as well as cystitis, and was both suffering from a sexually transmitted disease and was pregnant at the time of her death.

I don't want to categorically state that all of this is correct, but I believe it's possible that her character has been whitewashed in this article because the author believes she was "a victim" and so does not want to "besmirch" her character. As for the autopsy, allegedly showing that Rappe had had no prior pregnancies and no venereal disease, I don't trust it. The papers were drawn up before Rappe was even dead, and it was performed extremely soon after her death. I believe there was an agenda there. I think this article needs to be more comprehensive. Jersey Jan (talk) 04:43, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]