Talk:Vincigliata

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The Sire of Vincigliata

There is a brief description of the plot of the 1913 film here and a marginally fuller one in French here. But I don’t see quite how it can have been inspired by the figure of Temple Leader. Ian Spackman (talk) 23:46, 10 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

If we cannot find a source stating that this film was inspired by the figure of Temple Leader—which I still find a claim puzzling in itself—I suggest moving the reference to The Sire of Vincigliata into a See Also section. Thoughts? Ian Spackman (talk) 10:13, 14 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Ian, I agree let's do that. Thanks by the way for your additions and the images - haven't quite mastered that process yet, regards Long Ben Every. Long Ben Every

O.K. – done. I am pretty sure there must be some definite link to the castle that can be discovered – it may well have appeared in the film (the director was based in Florence), or the scenario may have been based on a pre-existing leggend linked to the castle. If anyone comes across something of the sort (though I couldn’t find anything through on-line searches), we can weave the reference back into the main text. But for now the See also approach seems best. Good work on the article, by the way! Ian Spackman (talk) 09:59, 15 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Sources

I don’t have time to work on this interesting article at the moment, but these appear to be two good, up-to-date, and reliable sources on the castle as rebuilt by John Temple Leader.

D. Medina Lasansky, The Renaissance perfected: architecture, spectacle, and tourism in Fascist Italy (University Park, Penn.: Pennsylvania State University Press, 2004), pp. 39–40. Google preview
Katie Campbell, Paradise of exiles: the Anglo-American gardens of Florence (London: Frances Lincoln, 2009), pp. 41–45. Google preview

(Each interprets the tone of Henry James’s comments on the castle in very different ways, by the way.) Ian Spackman (talk) 19:07, 16 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Citation problem

There's a problem with the short-citation method used here. There are two books by Leeming and they are not differentiated in the citations. Can someone with access to these references please sort them out. Personally, I would also prefer to see use of the "ref name" system with the template {{rp}} for page numbers. Cheers, Bjenks (talk) 08:29, 10 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

No help here—what to do?. A worse problem is that most of the lengthy biographical information on POW residents is (a) copied from the linked articles on individuals, an unacceptable duplication, and (b) of no real relevance to the subject castle. I propose that the list of notable escapees be limited to their names, and that the non-notable ones be excluded, as is done for other POW camps, eg, Stalag VII-A. We really need separate articles on the historic castle and its short wartime use as a POW camp. Bjenks (talk) 02:09, 4 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Duff references

There are currently five references to "Neave", but no work by Neave listed. This may be a typo for Neame, or it may be a work by Airey Neave is intended. Yet another example of why the citation style used in this article (and many others) is so shitty. DuncanHill (talk) 15:19, 15 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]