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[edit]For regular Dodger Stadium fans, however, every game that Scully has called has been rife with memorable observations and ad libs. In a long-running tradition with television broadcasts called by Scully, cameramen will scope out young children and babies (affectionately referred to as "youngsters") and Scully will offer warm commentary regarding them. Scully enjoyed an easy rapport with the hometeam fans and never criticized them, even when they would leave a Dodgers' game in the seventh inning in order to avoid the terrible LA traffic. Between calls, Scully would give tongue-in-cheek observations of what was going on in and around the playing field. During one Sunday afternoon Dodgers rout, fans began leaving the stadium en masse in the seventh inning. "You know what they say in opera: 'It's not over 'til the fat lady sings,'" Scully ad-libbed. "Well, folks, the fat lady is singing in the parking lot!" Maybe a Dodger fan out there can clarify this? Why is the tense changing in this section? Does he not do this anymore? If he does, then the grammar here needs to be smoothed out.
solo
[edit]I'm surprised there is nothing here about why he calls games solo. I came here specifically for more info on that. Can anyone add an explanation or background on this? Aglie 06:33, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
- Did he really always call games solo? I thought Jerry Doggett was his broadcast partner during the early L.A. years. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 209.98.171.153 (talk • contribs).
- Like with Ross Porter and other "partners", Scully and Doggett would trade off: if it was a radio-only game (back when only part of the season was televised), Scully would call innings 1-3 and 7-9 with the partner handling 4-6; TV games would feature Scully calling 1-3 and 7-9 on TV and 4-6 on radio—and, usually, the 9th inning was a simulcast. For obvious reasons, Scully is more descriptive during radio broadcasts and would therefore treat the simulcast like a radio broadcast, since he coudn't assume those listening were also watching the action. I have not included this in the article as I haven't yet searched for a reliable source; I've listened to Vinny for over 40 years, but my recollections (like yours) constitute original research. RadioKirk (u|t|c) 18:31, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
Did Scully announce USC football games in the '60s?
[edit]I was watching a documentary on John McKay (football coach) that had interviews recorded before his death; when talking about long-time USC announcer Tom Kelly, he mentioned that Kelly replaced Scully as the USC game radio announcer. Anyone else have information on this? It would've likely been the 60s or early 70s. --Bobak 22:57, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
- He did for awhile. That goes back aways. The bad thing about radio is that not much is recorded on paper about announcers other than maybe a quick byline in one or two newsarticle, bios, etc. Scully has been a jack-of-all trades, announcing wise. Ronbo76 14:17, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
Scully Memorable Calls
[edit]Would any of his calls in that back-to-back-to-back-to-back homerun game qualify. I thought he had two good liners in there (One when Nomar wins it And a high fly ball to left field, it is a way out and gone! The Dodgers win it 11-10! *chuckles* Unbelievable!. And then after the celebration, as the broadcast is ending he says- in classic Scully fashion- "Oh, and did I forget to mention- the Dodgers are now leading the NL West" (or something to that effect). --Seventy-one 07:26, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
- Maybe a short paragraph; a great moment, but not particularly huge in the grand scheme of things. RadioKirk (u|t|c) 17:09, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
- That came out longer than I'd intended, but I can't figure out how to make it shorter with the impact intact. Feel free to review. RadioKirk (u|t|c) 17:46, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
- I like the way you did it. If only there were another article for it, then the summary wouldn't be as long as it is. But its well done. Some user may come by and change the style in which you summarized the situation. But, I don't care either way.--Seventy-one 23:59, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
- Thanks. I just looked at it again, I still think I need to figure out a way to make it more brief, and I still don't see how... ;) RadioKirk (u|t|c) 00:13, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
- I like the way you did it. If only there were another article for it, then the summary wouldn't be as long as it is. But its well done. Some user may come by and change the style in which you summarized the situation. But, I don't care either way.--Seventy-one 23:59, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
- That came out longer than I'd intended, but I can't figure out how to make it shorter with the impact intact. Feel free to review. RadioKirk (u|t|c) 17:46, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
Recent Calls east of the Rockies
[edit]Scully also called the NLDS game 1 & 2 in 2006 played in Shea Stadium on radio. This is another example of his calling the game played east of Rockies recent days. You can find the evidence in http//www.worldseries.com and in Dodgers vs. Mets NLDS section. 128.97.206.102 21:41, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
When did Scully start his reduced schedule? It's been atleast since 2005, but was it before? If so, what year? --Levineps (talk) 22:40, 2 October 2013 (UTC)
NPOV? - Ha!
[edit]No NPOV here. I love Vin, but this article is more of a hagiography than something which would appear in an encyclopedia. 68.101.130.214 07:30, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
- What POV is missing? Jibal (talk) 06:00, 3 August 2022 (UTC)
Simply, I couldn't agree more.--24.14.83.138 23:43, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
Scully To Retire After 2010 Dodgers Season
[edit]It is important to include in this article Vin Scully's intention to retire from the broadcasting booth after the 2010 Dodger Season. Scully has been the Dodgers broadcaster for 60 years, and it is imperative to note his planned retirement before it actually occurs. Sports enthusiasts nationwide and Dodger fans especially should know of this detail in order to adequately appreciate such a timeless voice while it is still in practice. Furthermore, when Scully retires, it will mark the end of the longest broadcasting career in sports history for a single team. The coming end of the Scully era is monumental with respect to the Los Angeles Dodgers and Major League Baseball as a whole, and is less than 15 months away. Scully's Wikepedia definitely should include this fact. Cite error: There are <ref>
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Jzabs (talk) 03:25, 2 November 2009 (UTC)jzabs
Vin Scully travels
[edit]Denver being east of the Rockies -- slightly -- I took the liberty of editing the main article to reflect that -- with a few exceptions -- Vin does not travel east of Denver (rather than "east of the Rockies").
Charley T on Maui 205.172.16.103 (talk) 22:00, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
- Of course since the Colorado Rockies play in Denver... east of the Rockies still makes since... east of the "Colorado Rockies baseball club". Spanneraol (talk) 22:12, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
New 3-year contract with the L.A. Dodgers
[edit]Big News! Vin Scully stays with L.A. Dodgers for his 65th year behind the microphone. He is 85. Good portrait-picture: http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/Vin-Scully-to-Return-to-Dodgers-220791761.html — Charles Edwin Shipp (talk) 16:41, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
Height
[edit]I met Vinny just once, in Tucson years ago. I was personally struck by how tall he was. Does anyone know his height? BigMac31 (talk) 04:53, 4 April 2016 (UTC)
"a retired American sportscaster" v. "an American retired sportscaster"
[edit]Since there's a bit of back and forth about this phrasing, I'll put this here: while the former seems to "flow" better, the latter is grammatically accurate. He is not a retired American. That said, searches for both phrases return both Good and Featured articles. —ATS 🖖 Talk 08:44, 5 October 2016 (UTC)
- Seriously the first is better english.... and it doesnt say hes a retired american... the phrase is american sportscaster... I always hated how people insist on putting american before retired... its just poor writing. Spanneraol (talk) 12:33, 5 October 2016 (UTC)
- "[T]he phrase is [A]merican sportscaster". That's actually incorrect. He was a sportscaster who is American. Pedantic, to be sure, but I strive for accuracy, which can never be "poor". —ATS 🖖 Talk 19:52, 5 October 2016 (UTC)
- I don't think the sentence should say "retired" at all. He's "an American sportcaster" who is retired. The lead should be clear enough that readers can see that he has retired without it being in the first sentence. Also, "retired American sportscaster" implies he retired from being an American. – Muboshgu (talk) 20:03, 5 October 2016 (UTC)
- It has to be in the first sentence in some manner, because "is an American sportscaster" without the qualifying statement is inaccurate. I think I have a solution, which I will attempt presently. —ATS 🖖 Talk 21:30, 5 October 2016 (UTC)
- He's still a sportscaster, much like Hank Aaron is still a baseball player, even though they're not active. – Muboshgu (talk) 21:39, 5 October 2016 (UTC)
- I know this has been argued before but retired american sportscaster does NOT imply he retired from being an american.. thats just silly. I hate the way its phrased like that with retired ballplayers too... You cant retire from being an american and to think anyone would think that is really just nutty... American retired is just poor sentence structure. Spanneraol (talk) 22:02, 5 October 2016 (UTC)
- He's still a sportscaster, much like Hank Aaron is still a baseball player, even though they're not active. – Muboshgu (talk) 21:39, 5 October 2016 (UTC)
"retired American sportscaster" implies he retired from being an American
- No, it certainly doesn't. Jibal (talk) 06:07, 3 August 2022 (UTC)
- It has to be in the first sentence in some manner, because "is an American sportscaster" without the qualifying statement is inaccurate. I think I have a solution, which I will attempt presently. —ATS 🖖 Talk 21:30, 5 October 2016 (UTC)
- If you strive for accuracy then you shouldn't call things "incorrect" when they aren't ... "retired American sporscaster" is the correct phrase; "American retired sportscaster" is not: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/sep/13/sentence-order-adjectives-rule-elements-of-eloquence-dictionary Jibal (talk) 06:06, 3 August 2022 (UTC)
- I don't think the sentence should say "retired" at all. He's "an American sportcaster" who is retired. The lead should be clear enough that readers can see that he has retired without it being in the first sentence. Also, "retired American sportscaster" implies he retired from being an American. – Muboshgu (talk) 20:03, 5 October 2016 (UTC)
- "[T]he phrase is [A]merican sportscaster". That's actually incorrect. He was a sportscaster who is American. Pedantic, to be sure, but I strive for accuracy, which can never be "poor". —ATS 🖖 Talk 19:52, 5 October 2016 (UTC)
I don't care either way, but are we allowed to establish a project-specific consensus and just go with that? This article is in pretty good shape, but I sometimes find that we waste time arguing over this on entries where there are much bigger issues. EricEnfermero (Talk) 22:00, 5 October 2016 (UTC)
I almost wish we could just leave American out and start the second sentence with"Born in The Bronx, Scully..." EricEnfermero (Talk) 22:04, 5 October 2016 (UTC)
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