Talk:Vienna offensive

Capture date of Sepp Dietrich

In the article, this statement is made:

"On May 12, Sepp Dietrich was finally captured by American troops of the US Third Army, four days after Victory in Europe Day."

Sources other than Dollinger claim his date of surrender as May 9 or even May 8 (see http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=8696 for one example). Seeing as U.S. newspaper archives appear have reported on his capture on May 12, it seems his capture must have taken place earlier. I have moved this statement to the discussion page of the article until a firm date can be established. W. B. Wilson 18:50, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

References

Vienna Offensive in Soviet historiography

According to Krivosheev, the Vienna Strategic Offensive Operation lasted from March 16 to April 15, 1945. Initially, the Soviet forces had 644 700 men, while the allied Bulgarians had another 100 900. The Soviets suffered 38 661 dead and missing, 129 279 wounded and sick; the Bulgarians lost 2698 and 7107. With respect, Ko Soi IX (talk) 10:53, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Vienna in Austria or Germany

Wouldnt Vienna technically be in Germany as Austria was annexed by Germany and ceased to exsist as an independant state? Austria didnt secede from Germany until April 27th, 1945. All maps up until August 1945 show the area of austria as part of Germany.

It would be nice if you could stop changing the article to match your interpretation of Vienna's location in 1945 until we've had a chance to discuss this issue.

Germany incorporated a lot of land from many different countries during the war and quite a few countries lost their independence as a result. However, in practically every case, it was only the Nazis who believed in the legitimacy of their annexation. Wikipedia has many articles concerning battles in areas annexed by Germany -- and none of these articles refer to the annexed areas as "Germany". For an example, see Warsaw Uprising.

There is also a practical difficulty in implementing your POV regarding Vienna, and that is, overwhelmingly, the general population associates Vienna with Austria and not Germany. By stating Vienna was in Germany in 1945 because the Nazi Party so claimed, it is confusing for average readers who will not understand the technicalities of the German occupation and will cause confusion among those who (properly) associate Vienna with Austria.

I am changing the article back to referring to Vienna as being in Austria. If you still believe I am mistaken about this issue, I ask you to bring this up with the World War II Task Force Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/World War II task force and seek their interpretation.

If maps were still showing Austria as part of Germany in August 1945, then they were dated -- Austria was, of course, fully occupied by the Soviets and the Western Allies by early May 1945. Cheers, W. B. Wilson (talk) 15:47, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

Austria was different, its unification with Germany was internationally recognized before the war.--English Bobby (talk) 13:13, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

Casualties.

We had been citing german source for soviet casualties, which is unacceptable. I changed to Krivosheev. And I suggest changing german casualties to whatever Overmans (german historian) cites them. --99.231.50.255 (talk) 16:46, 9 December 2009 (UTC)Pavel Golikov.

Pavel, rather than insisting on one source for casualties, why don't we include multiple footnotes with the various casualty figures? This disparity between German and Soviet figures is nothing new and one finds it to be the case for many battles. I find it more informative if several quotes for casualties are provided, along with the references from which they are drawn. W. B. Wilson (talk) 05:55, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

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"Liberation"

As a result, the victory of a Soviet offensive toward Austria and the liberation by the Red Army... - Statements like this add insult to injury. --105.8.61.164 (talk) 22:02, 26 October 2017 (UTC)