Talk:Victorian Socialists

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Membership numbers?

If there is no public release of membership numbers do we default to old public numbers? — Preceding unsigned comment added by BlueMountainPanther (talk • contribs) 12:52, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect?

I’m not sure why this was redirected to “The Socialists (Victoria) - it’s a separate political party. Cheers.

Better Sourcing

I feel that the page is too reliant on first-party sources. If possible the page should follow WP:SOURCE and attempt to use independent, non-party owned, third-party sources. I'll attempt to convert the page, any help would be great. Thanks. Catiline52 (talk) 23:18, 22 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

2020 Local elections

I believe the count of local councillors is actually 2 - Sue Bolton in Moreland was also re-elected, this time as a Victorian Socialists candidate. Does anyone have a source on this? Khardankov (talk) 06:18, 1 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Revolutionary Communist Organisation

@Helper201 suggested getting consensus for this - the Revolutionary Communist Organisation, a small communist group, announced its members were setting up a caucus within VS (see this edit)

Granted it's a small group, but VS is relatively a small party and setting up a caucus seems like it might be worth mentioning? Happy to get further views on this from editors of course, I'm not massively fussed either way Totallynotarandomalt69 (talk) 09:22, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

When I first saw Helper201's edits I thought that they were a bit harsh, but I really didn't care to get involved. Your comment puts it into perspective that RCO aren't actually notable, so after some thought I'd probably agree with Helper201. It would be one thing if there reliable secondary sources stating that RCO were collaborating in VS with SAlt, but given the sourcing is WP:ABOUTSELF I don't think that really cuts it in regards to WP:DUE given that RCO aren't notable. TarnishedPath^talk 10:17, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed with TarnishedPath. VS is notable because it has been covered by news and government sources, so there is some room to put down VS-aligned sources here to clarify how it describes itself. RCO is not notable as it is only covered by itself. Wikipedia isn't the place for up-and-coming companies, organizations, grouplets etc. to promote themselves or be documented by others based solely on their own social media posts or compiling rumors. To that end, TarnishedPath did a really good job over the last few years trimming out a lot of VS self-promotion from this article, so I hope we can keep it in that state. - AndreyKva (talk) 10:32, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yep makes sense @TarnishedPath and @AndreyKva, I'll keep an eye out for any secondary coverage of RCO's VS caucus but will leave unchanged until then, glad to get consensus :) Totallynotarandomalt69 (talk) 10:35, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

or if there is an article created about RCO which is able to demonstrate that they are notable, in which case I'd consider their aboutself sourcing differently TarnishedPath^talk 10:39, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah absolutely (at the moment I'd suspect there won't be an article for sometime, I really can't find much reliable coverage) Totallynotarandomalt69 (talk) 10:42, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Elected representatives in the lead

Can we stop sticking elected representatives in the lead please. No other article about Australian political parties does this from what I've seen. It's not what makes the political party notable. If you want to make the lead longer, please think about what else that is covered in the body of the article is significant enough to be put in the lead, taking MOS:LEAD into account. TarnishedPath^talk 07:28, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]