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Why different colours?--Martianmister (talk) 16:26, 4 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

November 2017 events.

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There's an Rfc at President of Zimbabwe. Not sure if it will end the dispute here. GoodDay (talk) 15:13, 26 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

 Done - An RfC was taken for this page and the issue has since been resolved. GippoHippo (talk) 14:52, 12 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Legitimacy of Mphoko as Vice-President

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There should also be an RfC on this topic as we need more opinions on whether:
A: Phelekezela Mphoko was the First Vice-President of Zimbabwe between 6 and 24 November 2017
B: Mr Mphoko is currently serving as the Vice-President (be it first or second) to Emmerson Mnangagwa, the current President of Zimbabwe
GippoHippo (talk) 09:24, 27 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi We have no source that Mphoko became first vice president but I have found a source who said that he left his office on 24 November. --Panam2014 (talk) 12:52, 27 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@GippoHippo, GoodDay, Strawberry4Ever, Nick.mon, and Hariboneagle927: your opinion is welcome. It is sure that Mphoko term ended on 24 November but we haven't sources who said that he was first VP. Especially since shortly before a coup, Mugabe said that the next first vice president would be a woman, implied his wife Grace. So the post was vacant. --Panam2014 (talk) 19:56, 27 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

In that case, once the protection ends on this article tomorrow, I'm all for you citing the source you're referring to and mark the office as vacant. However, I believe we should leave the question of if at all Mr Mphoko was First VP for another day, although I doubt any more sources will become available on this specific issue. Alternatively, we could mark Mr Mphoko's term as Second VP as ending on 24 November 2017 (as per the source you're referring to), while leaving the First Vice-Presidency between 6 and 24 November as 'Unclear/Vacant' followed by 'Vacant' as of 24 November 2017 onwards. --GippoHippo (talk) 20:15, 27 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@GippoHippo: a source from Le Monde:

  • Emmerson Mnangagwa a été investi président, il lui appartient désormais de nommer son gouvernement - une annonce pourrait être faite dès mardi 28 novembre, mais attendons - et ses deux vice-présidents. Phelekezela Mphoko n’est plus vice-président, à partir du moment où un nouveau pouvoir est investi, par ailleurs, c’est vrai, on ignore où il se trouve.
  • Emmerson Mnangagwa has been appointed as president, he should now appoint his cabinet - an announcement could be made as early as Tuesday, November 28, but wait - and his two vice-presidents. Phelekezela Mphoko is no longer vice-president, from the moment a new power is invested, moreover, it's true, we do not know where he is. --Panam2014 (talk) 21:04, 27 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

NYT said that Mphoko was second VP on 20 November. --Panam2014 (talk) 21:10, 27 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I have made the relevant changes based on what we currently know. --GippoHippo (talk) 17:41, 28 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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