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Cisco from The Flash TV series

So, new problem (same as the old problem): we have a character from the comic book, a superhero who shares the same name as a character from the tv series The Flash. Apart from the name, they share precisely zero similarities - no background, no abilities, no education, not even appearance (beyond both being Hispanic/Latino). I know the urge to connect the two via Sherlock-y deduction is strong, but I think we should avoid doing so in the absence of a solid reference connecting the two (I'd be happy with two unambiguous references on the matter). A simple name similarity isn't enough to make a connection, as evidenced by characters like Sandman, Sandman, Sandman and, of course Sandman. And we should never forget the two Captain Marvels (and dual Shazams), Scarecrows, the Master and Bumblebee. - Jack Sebastian (talk) 16:34, 23 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Even if he never acquired the powers of Vibe, it would be worth including as a non-powered adaptation/reimagining of the charatcer. But this case, there are countless sources affirming the link between the two and the show even makes puns about vibes and references to Cisco and soundwaves frequently in the show itself. Plus his brother etc. has the same name and relationship with him. It's a character which since 2012 has had a strong connection to the Flash, so (while it's not fodder for the article) it's also pretty obvious that this was lined up intentionally with the show. In any case, it's way more ORy I think to argue a case that there's no connection. Wikipedia should have no editorial preference here. If Felicity Smoak was not adapted back into the comics, we would still have an article discussing the two very different versions of that character/concept.Zythe (talk) 21:06, 28 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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George Pérez's view of the character

The late George Pérez was arguably DC Comics' most popular artist in the 1980s. His work on The New Teen Titans was DC's best-selling series in the first half of the decade and he drew Crisis on Infinite Earths which re-shaped the company for decades afterward. Pérez was also the most high-profile Latino creator in the US comics industry at the time. He had a strong dislike for the Vibe character, which he considered to be "an ethnic stereotype". Real-world responses to the depiction of fictional characters is certainly worthy of inclusion in an article. This wasn't some random fanboy complaining about a character, it was one of the most prominent creators in the industry!

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Comics artist George Pérez took exception to the Vibe character. In a 1985 interview with Heidi MacDonald, he stated, "I have a certain bigotry towards Vibe...I sincerely say he's the one character who turned me off the JLA. If nothing else, every character that was introduced was an ethnic stereotype."^[1]

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^ MacDonald, Heidi; Heintjes, Tom (1985). "The George Pérez Interview". Focus on George Pérez. Fantagraphics Books. p. 29. ISBN 0-930193-09-1.

[1] MacDonald, Heidi; Heintjes, Tom (1985). "The George Pérez Interview". Focus on George Pérez. Fantagraphics Books. p. 29. ISBN 0-930193-09-1.

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