Talk:Viacheslav V. Nikulin
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Deletion nomination
[edit]Let me read wp:prof and I'll come back with something. ~~ Dr Dec (Talk) ~~ 14:31, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
- He passes Criterion 5. I'll try to find a third party source. ~~ Dr Dec (Talk) ~~ 14:42, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
- I see no indication that he passes condition 5. Based on his official web page, he appears to be a professor teaching undergraduate courses and holds no chair or any additional title beyond that of a full professor.--RadioFan (talk) 14:56, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
- No his webpage doesn't, but I was one of his undergraduate students and worked with him as a postgrad. I remember him having a personal chair; I'm looking for a third party source. Aside from criterion 5, he has over 65 peer reviewed publications[1] and two published books[2]. He's also mentioned in B. H. Yandell's "The Honors Class: Hilbert's Problems and Their Solvers" as being a major contributor towards the solution of Hilbert's 16th problem[3]. ~~ Dr Dec (Talk) ~~ 15:17, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
- If he can be shown, through citations to reliable sources, to have been widely recognized by his peers has making a major contribution to his field, then he'll likely meet criteria 1. Major publications or books, especially those that have been cited by others, are worth mentioning in the article but they dont do much to establish notability.--RadioFan (talk) 15:33, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
- On the contrary: the notes and examples section of WP:PROF says that "The most typical way of satisfying Criterion 1 is to show that the academic has been an author of highly cited academic work." So major publications or books, in particular those that have been cited by others, do establish notability. ~~ Dr Dec (Talk) ~~ 16:10, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
- Correct, but "highly cited" usually means >100, although in mathematics it may be less. I doubt that a few dozen is enough even in that low-citation field, though. Having a large number of publications does not in any way establish notability, what counts is whether these publications had an impact (and then a single one can be enough to establish notability). --Crusio (talk) 16:52, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
- Well his most cited paper is around the 40 mark, so that's not too bad. Besides, he meets criterion 5 since a third chair of mathematics was established for him in 1999[4]. He's not just an ordinary professor. And even if he failed to meed any of the WP:PROF criterion, the fact that he's been a main contributor towards a solution of Hilbert's sixteenth problem would mean that there would be grounds for inclusion per WP:NOTABLE. ~~ Dr Dec (Talk) ~~ 17:02, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
- On the contrary: the notes and examples section of WP:PROF says that "The most typical way of satisfying Criterion 1 is to show that the academic has been an author of highly cited academic work." So major publications or books, in particular those that have been cited by others, do establish notability. ~~ Dr Dec (Talk) ~~ 16:10, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
- If he can be shown, through citations to reliable sources, to have been widely recognized by his peers has making a major contribution to his field, then he'll likely meet criteria 1. Major publications or books, especially those that have been cited by others, are worth mentioning in the article but they dont do much to establish notability.--RadioFan (talk) 15:33, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
- I see where some confusion has arisen between RadioFan (a US resident) and myself (a UK resident). In some countries professor means simply university teacher, for example in the US and in France. In the UK a professor is someone that occupies a chair. Compare Professor#United_States_and_Canada with Professor#Most_other_English-speaking_countries. As I've said above: a third chair of mathematics was established for him in 1999[5]; so he does indeed hold a chair and meets criterion 5. ~~ Dr Dec (Talk) ~~ 18:17, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
- No his webpage doesn't, but I was one of his undergraduate students and worked with him as a postgrad. I remember him having a personal chair; I'm looking for a third party source. Aside from criterion 5, he has over 65 peer reviewed publications[1] and two published books[2]. He's also mentioned in B. H. Yandell's "The Honors Class: Hilbert's Problems and Their Solvers" as being a major contributor towards the solution of Hilbert's 16th problem[3]. ~~ Dr Dec (Talk) ~~ 15:17, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
- I see no indication that he passes condition 5. Based on his official web page, he appears to be a professor teaching undergraduate courses and holds no chair or any additional title beyond that of a full professor.--RadioFan (talk) 14:56, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
- I actually think that you are misunderstanding the meaning of "named chair" in the US, which is not the same thing as "personal chair" (whatever that may be :-)... --Crusio (talk) 18:55, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
- A personal chair is a title given to a senior member of an academic staff which retires when that member of staff retires. Other chairs are filled when the current occupant retires, e.g. heads of department. N.B.: Criterion 5 states that "The person holds or has held a named/personal chair appointment..." ~~ Dr Dec (Talk) ~~ 19:05, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
- Yeah, I just saw that, too. Must say that that is my least favorite criterion of WP:PROF... I know several people that have such chairs and that I would not directly call notable... :-) --Crusio (talk) 19:37, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
- Looking at the claim of contribution to Hilbert's sixteenth problem and the reference provided, "The Honors Class: Hilbert's Problems and Their Solvers", Nikulin is mentioned only once and his name is among a partial list of 20 names described as being part of the "communal" effort to solve Hilbert's 15th problem. This doesn't strike me as a terribly strong argument for notability. Also, I'm no expert on academics in the UK, is it common to have this many chairs in a department? You generally only see that in situations where there are a number of highly published, highly respected professors at US university.--RadioFan (talk) 22:18, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
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Ph.D. advisor
[edit]I did not manage to find a reference to his doctoral advisor being Shafarevich. It would be good to have such a reference, including the year. I believe the statement to be correct, I just cannot find the right link. 138.38.106.28 (talk) 09:57, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
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