Talk:Variant Dungeons & Dragons games

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Here are some tasks awaiting attention:

Merge : Various articles
Stubs : Dungeoneer's Survival Guide, Swords & Spells, Variant Dungeons & Dragons games, More...
Update : Rewrite to be out-of-universe: Companions of the Hall, Dark Sun, Elf (Dungeons & Dragons)
Verify : add sources to novels planned for merge to List of Dragonlance novels
Other : Collaboration: Dave Arneson, Drow (Dungeons & Dragons)

From original location talk page.

Considering the material will have variants as in knock-offs of D&D form earlier times, and also will include variants allowed by licenses such as OGL, STL, and GSL, I placed a link on the main D&D page under the license section for this new main article and hopefully it can evolve into something presenting material based on all the variant game concepts other than just licensed products, but those in the same vein as C&C, Lejundary Journeys, etc to tell where they can be traced back to for some obvious reasons. Since they have a link to the main variant article on the main D&D article, I don't think a link needs to go here with editions as this will free the editions of D&D up from reader confusion on what is D&D, and what is D&D-like. At least that is my hopes in a nutshell. But now we just need to gather the correct information on the new article, and maybe someone step in that is a better writer to clean up and separate out the parts to explain what these variant games are in terms of OGL/STL/GSL, and general knock-offs meant to emulate D&D. Sort of a big article on spin-off games right now, that needs some more meat in it without actually taking away from any game that already has its own article. Of course the new articles name itself may not be the best either, so feel free to change it to something more appropriate. Hopefully this change will make it wasier to get this editions article up to better status, and allow the inclusion of the other information as well which can be worked on at a later time. This all can be discussed on the new article talkpage for those interested in helping make it better and this passage will be copied there for that discussion. shadzar-talk 01:20, 15 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Refactoring

This would probably be better transformed into one of the following:

A list article, detailing D&D offshoots;
A general overview of gaming licenses, a la software license.

I don't see that there's sufficient general material on the subject of "variant Dungeons & Dragons games" to warrant a full article. Chris Cunningham (not at work) - talk 13:23, 16 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

That would be because it is a day or so old, and there hasn't been any time to work on it Gavin. Wikipedia does not have some clock it needs stuff done on some specific timeframe and requires people to have time to work on the articles in turn. This was taken out of another article where it did not fully belong and there was no room for it in the main D&D article. So feel free to do some of the work yourself to make this into a better article rather than complain about it as it is. Also if you note above it should state this is for not only licensing D&D offshoots, but those that were created in the similar vein of D&D as knock-offs without a license to do so. Therefore the article is not solely a D&D stub but for any game really that was bred from D&D in mind. Also mentioned is that the name of this article could be changed when someone has time to review and figure a good name for it from the previous section name it had in the article it came from. shadzar-talk 01:13, 17 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

We do not create articles on random collections of data. If you're unsure as to what exactly this article's focus is, then that's something which needs to be addressed quickly. The two proposals I gave were suggestions. Chris Cunningham (not at work) - talk 10:20, 17 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]