Talk:Vang Vieng

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river name

It writes river several times in the article but - which river is it? --katpatuka (talk) 19:19, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

...found it: must be Nam Song River... --katpatuka (talk) 15:39, 26 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

"dubious honour of being the most bombed country in history"

Really? By what metric? I mean, are we not counting Dresden or Hiroshima? Or event the Blitz? If were just talking about lots of explosives going boom, what about the United States, there were a thousand nuclear bombs set-off in the desert during Cold War testing. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.213.147.254 (talk) 18:46, 23 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

By whatever metric you wish - it clearly states in the in passage that more ordinance was dropped on Laos, than during the entire second world war, which i suppose included Dresden, the Blitz, Liverpool docks, Hiroshima, Nagasaki etc

And as for Hiroshima, well that was bombed only once...... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.41.191.13 (talk) 05:15, 16 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I've removed the reference to rodents sold as food until a reference can be supplied. You wouldn't write that about your local restauarant or any food chain, so why is it OK to libel some nameless food stall owner in Northern Laos? Because they can't sue you? To the contributor above - I believe it's tonnage of explosive per head of the population, but I could be wrong. Dazzla (talk) 13:26, 20 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I reinstated the part titled The Effects of Tourism because it really is very accurate, whoever wrote it was spot on. Having been there myself in November I came to this page to add something similar and saw it had already been done. By the way, Friends is not shown there much anymore, these days its more The Simpsons! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 118.107.150.244 (talk) 06:04, 17 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

This page has turned into a laughing stock. It is so innaccurate and some morons who have no idea about the true situation in Vang Vieng have decided to lock it so it can't be corrected. So much for Wikipedia having a "neutral point of view". What a joke. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 49.0.102.186 (talk) 09:32, 16 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Neutral point of view

The section Vang Vieng today needs to be more balanced and encyclopaedic; currently, it reads like a personal criticism of the current state of the town. Phrases like "As a result of these idiots" should not appear in Wikipedia articles. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jaffachief (talk • contribs) 16:03, 2 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that the Vang Vieng Today section needs to be more objective, and less like someone's travel blog. It does not read like an encyclopaedia at all.

Yep, while this is a pretty accurate portrayal of the place, it needs moderate language and, of course, references.Mattun0211 (talk) 11:34, 7 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

See Wikipedia:Neutral_point_of_view/Noticeboard#Vang Vieng. Zachlipton (talk) 19:27, 9 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

WHY THIS PAGE IS LOCKED? HOW I CAN MAKE CHANGES? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 164.38.32.100 (talk) 06:37, 9 February 2012 (UTC) I just want to be very clear here that my concern here is only with this user and these blatant NPOV violations. I really don't know anything about the subject and am not trying to stamp out negative material in general. The place does frankly sound like it has some downsides now, and if there are reliable sources that discuss the impacts tourism has had there on crime and quality of life, that seems like it would be an excellent addition to this article. Zachlipton (talk) 04:49, 12 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, well, all wiki editors must observe our local customs at all times which, unlike in Laos, are mandatory. Sean.hoyland - talk 04:59, 12 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I've added some sourced material to try and improve the article and address teh points bought up by Zachlipton. Mattun0211 (talk) 10:20, 14 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I'm glad there are sources. At the same time, I'm concerned that this is getting into WP:UNDUE territory, as this negative section of the article is something like 75-80% of the prose. Maybe we can bolster the rest of the article with more neutral information about the place and what it offers (some more geography, population stats, and major points of interest would be a start). And/or perhaps we can condense this new section down to what is necessary to say in keeping with WP:NPOV. Zachlipton (talk) 08:52, 15 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Yep - I agree and I'm looking into that. Trouble is finding good sources - which is surprising. Does anyone else have any? You have to wade through an ocean of monotonous blogs to find anything. I think a thorough examination of the negative issues is warranted as this is a topic of interest in SE Asia, particularly as the Laos government is trying to tackle them. But, perhaps this could be put in a separate section, however - Under a heading such as Effects of Tourism? Mattun0211 (talk) 08:57, 15 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for all your work on this Mattun0211! I don't know much about the subject (I stumbled on to this particular one through recent changes), but I'll poke around for anything interesting. Newspaper travel sections are often good sources for this kind of material. Some kind of census or local factbook could fill in some of the basic background too. Zachlipton (talk) 09:39, 15 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Cheers - I'll keep adding snipets as I find them. Mattun0211 (talk) 09:46, 15 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I reinstated the part titled The Effects of Tourism because it really is very accurate, whoever wrote it was spot on. Having been there myself in November I came to this page to add something similar and saw it had already been done. By the way, Friends is not shown there much anymore, these days its more The Simpsons! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 118.107.150.244 (talk) 06:05, 17 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I reinstated the part titled The Effects of Tourism because it really is very accurate, whoever wrote it was spot on. Having been there myself in November I came to this page to add something similar and saw it had already been done. By the way, Friends is not shown there much anymore, these days its more The Simpsons! 118.107.150.244 (talk) 06:18, 17 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

That isn't how Wikipedia works. Please read WP:V and remove all information and editorializing that isn't from a reliable source. The article can't say things like "Inconsiderate behaviour such as walking through the town without a shirt, or in a bikini (both are VERY disrespectful to the locals), drinking to excess, and smoking opium in public means Vang Vieng is no longer a magical place, and the senior locals, once so friendly and hopeful for the future, have now become distant and disillusioned." It's not a blog. All opinions must have been published by reliable secondary sources and the opinion must be attributed to the source of the opinion. Wikipedia's narrative voice can't be used for opinions. Sean.hoyland - talk 06:32, 17 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

WHY THE PAGE IS LOCKED? IT IS NO ACCURAT, BEFOR WAS MORE ACCURAT SOMONE KEEP CHANGING AND NOW CANNOT FIX! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 164.38.32.100 (talk) 06:39, 9 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Sources modified on Vang Vieng

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Pronunciation

I came to this article to see if it had any guidance on pronouncing the name. I didn't find any in the article text, so I looked up the provided Lao name ວັງວຽງ. The pronunciation I've heard from one English speaker is roughly /ˈveɪŋ.vi.ˌeɪŋ/, which seems like a quote plausible attempt at reading the transliteration with English phonology. Based on the pronunciation rules at [Lao script] and the tone rules at [Lao], I transcribe ວັງວຽງ as /ʋaŋ˦.ʋiːəŋ˦/. I don't feel confident about just editing that into the article without some sort of review, though: even in otherwise phonemic scripts, name pronunciations can often vary. Can we tell if that pronunciation is close enough to include? Or else how to fix it? Octavo (talk) 18:33, 22 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Vang Vieng is a town in Vientiane province of Laos, lying on the Nam Song River. It is surrounded by karst topography. The town was first settled around 1353 as a staging post between Luang Prabang and the Laotian capital, Vientiane. Originally named Mouang Song after the body of the deceased King Phra Nha Phao of Phai Naam was seen floating down the river, the town was renamed Vang Vieng during French colonial rule in the 1890s. During the Vietnam War, the United States military constructed an air-force base and runway in Vang Vieng, known as "Lima site 6". Since Laos opened up for tourism in the late 1990s, the town has grown substantially due to the influx of backpacker tourism and associated business development. This view of the town and surrounding karst was taken from the top of Mount Nam Xay in June, during the monsoon season.

Photograph credit: Basile Morin

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