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Proposed merge of Sundaravalli into Valli

Sundaravalli is intrinsically linked to her incarnation Valli. She does not any separate identity or mythology. Redtigerxyz ^Talk 17:12, 31 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Sundaravalli is distinct from Valli since the former is canonically the true identity of the goddess according to the Skanda Purana, while Valli is her incarnation, bearing origins from the Kurinji hillfolk. While the two goddesses are no doubt accepted as the same entity due to syncretism, their origins and myths are from different (Tamil and Sanskritised) traditions, and hence unique enough to warrant separate articles. Chronikhiles (talk) 10:32, 1 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Though technically Sundaravalli is a pre-incarnation of Valli, she does not have any independent existence apart from Valli. Most of Sundaravalli article talks about Valli, rather than her pre-incarnation. The information of "Legends and textual references" in Valli already covers the Sundaravalli part. This is just a replication of information. Non-notable previous births are covered in the article about the main deity - Putana#Previous_birth, Arundhati_(Hinduism)#Life, Vrishabhanu#Previous_birth.--Redtigerxyz ^Talk 13:47, 2 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

She does have an independent existence as far as theology is concerned, information lacking or not. Sundaravalli's existence is a product of syncretism to integrate her Dravidian origin of Valli with Vaishnavism, and hence mainstream Hinduism. Her acknowledgement as the daughter of Vishnu lends her a greater role and more credibility in Hindu mythology, even as more emphasis will always be accorded to Valli herself. Chronikhiles (talk) 11:38, 4 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Chronikhiles, Disagree that we have a consensus to not merge. I still do not believe that the article Sundaravalli requires an independent existence, similar to her subect which is intrinsically related to Valli. Suggest a neutral third-party to close the same. We can go for WP:RFC. --Redtigerxyz ^Talk 17:13, 17 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Uninterested and uninvolved party here. Same diety, almost the entirety of the other article was about this deity, and the other "incarnation" is adequately covered here. No need to merge, but any other material may be added to this article. 12:46, 5 October 2022 (UTC)