Talk:Urban areas in Sweden

Merge Luleå into list of largest urban areas

According to the official web page of Luleå Municipality, http://www.lulea.se/, the urban area (tätort) of Luleå reaches 56,568 (2005). This number used in the Swedish article of the city, and now also in the English version. I believe that the number used in most other articles featuring Luleå's urban population is around 45,000 inhabitants, but that those numbers should be updated. Including this article's list of largest urban areas in Sweden by population, where Luleå now should be between Karlstad and Täby. I don't know how old the data used in this list is, though I doubt such a high increase of the population on either Karlstad or Täby; the reason Luleå urban area could've gone from approximately 45,000 inhabitants to almost 57,000 is not due to a sudden increase of the municipality's population, the municipality has between 2004 and 2005 only increased by barely 200 inhabitants. But due to new areas of the municipality being counted into the city's urban area, or the tätort.

http://www.lulea.se/download/18.5ee063d310c3f1df7dd80002926/oversiktcena4ny.pdf

On this map you can see the whole urban area. Earlier only the most central parts has been counted to it (see Bergnäset W, Centrum C, Svartöstaden S, Hertsön E and Porsön N), though I believe that according to Wikipedia's definition of an urban area, or a tätort; "A tätort is any village, town, or city with a population of at least 200 for which the contiguous built-up area meet the criterion that houses are not more than 200 meters apart when discounting rivers, parks, roads, etc. A tätort may be a conurbation of several towns. Tätort is sometimes translated to "urban area", although below the translation "non-rural area" is preferred. ", the number used for the urban area of Luleå should be changed to 56,568 from that of around 45,000, due to the fact that the contiguos built-up area in Luleå goes farther than what the older number suggests.

I will not edit any pages myself, of the reason that the information in many if not most pages are older than 2005. I suggest an update of all data concerning the population of Swedish cities, though, but it shouldn't be followed through by me.

Unregistered - 22/10-2006, 02:49 CEST

Definition of "by"

The article states that the word by may "be used for suburbs and towns of considerable size". That sounds very strange. A by is a place much smaller than a town and that should be mentioned first. Or is my English knowledge so bad that I don't understand the full meaning of the definition as it is written now...? Fomalhaut76 (talk) 18:40, 18 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hm, I don't know in what context a by can be used for "suburbs and towns of considerable size". It does sound strange.

Fred-J 07:43, 19 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Places referred to as "by" include Klippan (8000 inh.), Perstorp (5600), and Vårgårda (5100). These are all larger than towns like Gränna (2600), Borgholm (3100), and Karlsborg (3600). Suburbs which carry the "by" description include Tygelsjö (Malmö), Akalla by (Stockholm), and Svartbjörnsbyn (Boden). /Dcastor (talk) 12:47, 7 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Well. That has nothing to do with any kind of official definition. In the case of "Akalla by" it is not the "suburb" or the "neigbourhood" itself which is called "Akalla by", but rather a group of preserved rural houses used for recreational purposes. --Muniswede (talk) 20:52, 7 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Swedish By means village. A village is not what it was, either in Sweden or England. 86.62.135.97 (talk) 00:06, 6 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Lists

why so many Aguilus (talk) 07:15, 19 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Merging with Urban areas in Finland

I think this article should be merged with the corresponding article for Finland, Urban areas in Finland, as well as any similar articles for Norway/Denmark. The concept of a statistical urban area ("tätort") is uniform across the Nordic countries, so the articles effectively cover the same topic. On the Swedish and Finnish Wikipedias, this concept is already treated as singular across the Nordics (see sv:tätort and fi:taajama). Currently, there is no English-language equivalent for this. If no one sees any problem with merging them, I can take care of it. —Rutlandbaconsouthamptonshakespeare (talk) 13:00, 13 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

An alternative option would be to create a completely new page that links to these two, e.g. Urban areas in the Nordic countries. —Rutlandbaconsouthamptonshakespeare (talk) 08:30, 14 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Urban areas in the Nordic countries created. —Rutlandbaconsouthamptonshakespeare (talk) 20:17, 24 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]