Talk:Unwritten Law

This article must adhere to the biographies of living persons (BLP) policy, even if it is not a biography, because it contains material about living persons. Contentious material about living persons that is unsourced or poorly sourced must be removed immediately from the article and its talk page, especially if potentially libellous. If such material is repeatedly inserted, or if you have other concerns, please report the issue to this noticeboard.

If you are a subject of this article, or acting on behalf of one, and you need help, please see this help page.

Biography: Musicians

	Biography portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Biography, a collaborative effort to create, develop and organize Wikipedia's articles about people. All interested editors are invited to join the project and contribute to the discussion. For instructions on how to use this banner, please refer to the documentation.BiographyWikipedia:WikiProject BiographyTemplate:WikiProject Biographybiography
	This article is supported by WikiProject Musicians.

Punk music (inactive)

This article is within the scope of WikiProject Punk music, a project which is currently considered to be inactive.Punk musicWikipedia:WikiProject Punk musicTemplate:WikiProject Punk musicPunk music

San Diego Low‑importance

This article is within the scope of WikiProject San Diego, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of topics related to San Diego and San Diego County on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.San DiegoWikipedia:WikiProject San DiegoTemplate:WikiProject San DiegoSan Diego

Low

This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

WikiProject San Diego To-do:

Here are some tasks awaiting attention:

Assess : Rate San Diego related articles from Category:Unassessed San Diego articles and Category:Unknown-importance San Diego articles with the {{WikiProject San Diego}} project banner.
Cleanup : A cleanup listing for this project is available: clean-up listing for San_Diego
Expand : San Miguel Mountain, Most articles from Category:Stub-Class San Diego articles.
Photo : Request photos that are needed from Category:Wikipedia requested photographs in San Diego County, California to include in each article.
Stubs : Work on articles in Category:San Diego County, California, geography stubs.
Other : * Add {{WikiProject San Diego}} project banner to related articles' talk pages and assess.
- Maintain and further improve articles already of high-quality.
- Get San Diego into Featured article status.
- Improve groups of articles to meet the standards for a Good or Featured Topic.

Pop music

	Pop music portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Pop music, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of articles related to pop music on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.Pop musicWikipedia:WikiProject Pop musicTemplate:WikiProject Pop musicPop music
???	This article has not yet received a rating on the project's importance scale.

It is requested that an image or photograph of Unwritten Law be included in this article to improve its quality. Please replace this template with a more specific media request template where possible.
The Free Image Search Tool or Openverse Creative Commons Search may be able to locate suitable images on Flickr and other web sites.

Upload

Australia?

Isn't Unwritten law from Australia?

No, they have a large following in Aus, but are Americans.

International hits

Why hasn't anyone done a list of their hits in different countries?

Biased

Added a NPOV notice. Statements such as "Unwritten Law watched themselves transform from a thrash punk garage band into international stars" and "in 2004 drummer Wade Youman, the only original member of the band, was kicked out for on going disputes over a woman and money with Russo. Perhaps the most underrated drummer of all time.." are clearly biased. Squar 01:54, 18 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Fixing this article would be so much easier if the original writer had left some sources to follow up on. *sigh* Alas, it is time to do some fact-hunting. Wanderer

I dont see how thats Biased at all. Im dont even hate them or anything. some chick just gave me a CD and i decided to look them up, confronted with the NPOV thing, i read for the sole purpose of finding something that either sucked up to the band, or made them sound like crap. i found niether. im taking it down.

Just because it doesn't tell you they don't suck doesn't mean it's not biased. You came to this article looking for an opinion about the band, so it's clear you don't understand the purpose of the nonNPOV tag. Don't remove it unless the article has substantially and sufficiently been modified. --149.43.x.x 21:29, 7 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've added the information table on the right. Now it at least looks like we're talking about a band ;) -- Michel (Netherlands)

An additional point is the statement about how writing music acoustically makes them better and/or special. LOTS of bands do this, it's not unique --149.43.x.x 17:32, 28 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well I rewrote the whole thing so hopefully that should settle these issues. I think it sounds neutral but if you disagree then discuss here. IllaZilla2 20:32, 7 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I think it looks much better (although I haven't the time to read it all thoroughly). And nice work on the discography, etc. Seems like you put alot of effort into it. -- 149.43.x.x 21:29, 7 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Super Sweet 16?

I can't find a site to verify, but I remember them being performers on an episode of "Super Sweet 16".Can anyone find something?

Yes I remember this too, a quick search for "Sweet 16 Unwritten Law" revealed a tv.com listing of all their show credits. Here is the tv.com page I'm not sure if thats a violation of copyright, I'm sure you could find more sources. That episode was titled 'Jacqueline & Lauren' and it was Season One, Episode One.--Token2k6 (talk) 12:36, 9 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

So can this be added under a 'Triva' heading or perhaps 'Under Music in film and video games' but also add 'tv' or 'television' to the heading? I think it is valid. If trivia is fitting, I've got one about how Blink 182 mentions UL in their single Josie. I'm sure there are more. --Token2k6 (talk) 12:49, 10 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Trivia sections are discouraged, so in other words, no, don't create a trivia section. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, so we should avoid creating lists of miscellaneous information. If you believe the information to be notable towards the band's wider success or exposure, then feel free to add it with reliable sources into the actual article. k.i.a.c (talktome - contribs) 13:28, 10 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I know Trivia are discouraged, so are 'References in Pop Culture' but they are so fun! I mean, as long as its factual and can be proved, I don't see anything wrong with entries like this to increase one's knowledge on any subject or be able to throw something out in conversation, but that's fine, I can live with it. I would let whoever started this topic add it, but since they didn't sign and its probably only an IP addy that suggested it, I guess I will go ahead and add it under my suggested heading, as well as changing that heading by adding 'tv' in there. Also, I may not need an external link b/c this article List_of_My_Super_Sweet_16_episodes lists it and even mentions UL right on S1 Ep1. --Token2k6 (talk) 14:26, 10 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Note: Wikipedia should not be used as a source. Just because information is in another article, does not mean it is verifiable. If it has a source in that article, copy that reference over to here. k.i.a.c (talktome - contribs) 03:41, 11 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Scott Russo Single

I was a little upset when my statement about Scott Russo and Big B's 2009 single Sinner under recent activity got removed: IllaZilla (Undid revision 300983180 by Token2k6 (talk) it's not an unwritten law single & therefore isn't pertinent here.) Ok, I understand the validity of the fact that its not a single by UL per se, however, the single involves the front man for the band. The lead singer of a band is almost inherently the backbone of that band, or could be singled out as the most important. I would understand if I was talking about say a guitar player playing with another band, however, when the main voice behind the band uses that voice to collaborate with another artist, then that is worthy of mention. And also when this single peaked pretty well and was a great single to kick summer off. Perhaps if Russo had his own page, it would be more appropriate there, but he doesn't. --Token2k6 (talk) 12:47, 9 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Whether it was a "great single to kick summer off" is entirely irrelevant here, but I digress...the point is that this article is about Unwritten Law, the band, and thus it should only cover releases by the band. A single member (Russo) collaborating on a song by an entirely different artist (Big B) isn't pertinent, and it isn't part of UL's catalog. We wouldn't list his side project with Aimee Allen, Scott & Aimee, in the UL discography now would we? Since it seems that Russo is forging a musical career outside of UL (with Scott & Aimee and now collaborations w/ other artists), it might be pertinent to start a separate article on him. Mention of the single would certainly be pertinent there. But putting a blurb abouut it here is akin to listing "Let Me Blow Ya Mind" in the No Doubt discography. --IllaZilla (talk) 18:03, 9 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sources

Compiling some sources here for use later:

Interview: Scott Russo of Unwritten Law explains departure of longtime members (URL commented out at momemt because examiner.com is blacklisted; have requested that this url be whitelisted)
Unwritten Law Guitarist Injured by Bomb
Exclusive: Unwritten Law face lineup changes after physical altercation between members
Two members of Unwritten Law depart after altercation

--IllaZilla (talk) 17:38, 11 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

IMDB listing

Scott Russo is listed in the IMDB. And Unwritten Law is credited in the IMDB with the music for several shows. I don't see a link here for those.