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What's World War II doing in an article about World War I? Also, isn't a century 100 years?
[edit]The text presently reads, "Armor plate (and after 1918, airplanes) were exceptions that have caused unremitting controversy for a century." Excuse me, but we haven't gotten to 2018 yet, have we?
The text presently reads, "After World War II, the arsenals and Navy yards were much less important than giant civilian aircraft and electronic firms, which became the second half of the "military–industrial complex."" What on earth has this got to do with World War I?
I think both of these just plain need to come out, so I'm going to go ahead and do so.
By the way - what the heck happened to this talk page? Why would I believe that an article this extensive has had no discussion? Has somebody killed the entire talk page? Would not that be gross vandalism?
Poihths (talk) 00:07, 12 November 2012 (UTC)
Much better presentation of economic and commercial issues needed
[edit]I believe that both this article and its companion article (United States in World War I, American entry into World War I) are seriously deficient in discussing economic and commercial interests and the role they played in how the United States got into this war. Analyzing this history as purely a matter of moral outrage and public feeling just plain leaves too much out. I'm no expert in this area, but those who are really should devote some work to this in order to present a full picture. Trade relationships with Britain and Germany were very real and very important. Those war loans were very real and involved very important sums of money, especially in a banking system that had very few safeguards and safety nets. How a possible future German Empire including Britain, France and Spain would have behaved economically and commercially would have had huge consequences for American interests. This whole aspect needs to be explained. Perhaps extant research in this area is inadequate, but it needs to be explored. Poihths (talk) 00:16, 12 November 2012 (UTC)
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April 2nd 1917, April 2nd,2017, 100 years no news media attention!
[edit]A 100 years has passed.Since the US dclared War on Germany and the Central Powers. Yet, no attention has been mentioned n press! A 100years and a few wars later! Thaks!MinEdsonAndreJohnson (talk) 00:15, 3 April 2017 (UTC)
You are just a few days off, I would imagine they will talk about it on the sixth, provided they haven't made up any other stories by then 67.66.139.10 (talk) 21:07, 3 April 2017 (UTC)
Ten thousand new soldiers arriving every day.
[edit]In one place, it says 10,000 soldiers were arriving every day in the spring of 1918, and another place it says 10,000 were arriving every day in November 1918. Are these both right ? Seems to be quoting the same source.`Lathamibird (talk) 10:37, 12 February 2018 (UTC)
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American soldiers stationed in Europe (before 1917)?
[edit]Although this statement in the 'Neutrality' section is cited (to a Finnish language publication), it is hard to believe that 'early in the war' (before America's entry) there were 1,452 American troops stationed in Europe. Can someone clarify in what form this element was and where based? I understand there were American citizens serving voluntarily in the French forces (mainly Foreign Legion) and in the British and Canadian forces (the latter allowed Americans to serve on condition they renounce their nationality during service) and generally speaking these Americans would have been officially in the service of the country whose forces employed them.Cloptonson (talk) 13:06, 6 March 2021 (UTC)
- Cloptonson, interesting question. A quick search for the obvious terms in various forms turns up no English-language source, but that's not to say one doesn't exist, it might just be harder to find. The Finnish source isn't anywhere online I can find. Perhaps try posting this at WikiProject Military History - the folks there were once very helpful when I was trying to track down a source for a uncited little story about some troops during WWII. Ganesha811 (talk) 13:21, 6 March 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you, I have taken up your suggestion which has had a few responses on the WikiProject Military History talk page, one of which suggested the 'unsupported' figure and its citation be dropped as an unreliable source.Cloptonson (talk) 14:21, 6 March 2021 (UTC)
- For benefit of further readers of this page I reproduce the sentences, from the opening paragraph of the section, as I found them:
- "After the war began in 1914, the United States proclaimed a policy of neutrality despite president Woodrow Wilson's antipathies against Germany. Early in the war, the United States started to favor the British and their allies with 1452 soldiers stationed in Europe."[1]
- What remains unclear is how 'early in the war' was this figure relating to. The Escadrille La Fayette which was French led and part of the French Air Force was not formed until 1916. There was also the American Field Ambulance Service raised in 1914 from the American colony in Paris but they are surely not classified as 'troops' although they functioned as a volunteer military assisting medical unit.Cloptonson (talk) 14:31, 6 March 2021 (UTC)
References
- ^ Kero, Reino; Kostiainen, Auvo; Virtanen, Keijo (1991). Uuden Maailman Jättiläinen: Yhdysvaltain historia (in Finnish). Keuruu: Otava. p. 332. ISBN 951-1-11435-2.
Undefined references
[edit]No work is defined for {{harvnb|Wilgus|p=52}} and {{harvnb|Ross|pp=244–246}}, so nobody can look them up and the article is added to Category:Harv and Sfn no-target errors. They should either be fixed or removed. DuncanHill (talk) 20:21, 17 June 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks for bringing it up. I'm fairly certain Wilgus is from Transporting the A. E. F. in Western Europe, 1917-1919 by William J. Wilgus[1] but looking at that specific page, it doesn't seem like it's the correct page number. Both references were added by @Johnsemlak: in 2007.[2] --Meanderingbartender (talk) 20:58, 17 June 2023 (UTC)
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