Talk:United States federal executive departments/Archive 1

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July 2003

The source material for most of the original article is: Foreign Press Centers

• Order Code RL31493
• Report for Congress
• Received through the CRS Web
• Homeland Security: Department Organization and Management
• Updated August 7, 2002
• Harold C. Relyea
• Specialist in American National Government
• Government and Finance Division

The CRS is the Congressional Research Service. The document contains a rather good summary of the creation of executive departments in the past and may be good source material for other US executive department articles.

Daniel Quinlan 07:50 21 Jul 2003 (UTC)

Independent and subordinate agencies

Cut from article:

While most federal agencies are within one of the executive departments, a few agencies, such as the Environmental Protection Agency, are not part of any the departments. Other departments, such as the United States Department of the Army, are not departments in same sense as the departments discussed in this article; these other departments are lower in the organizational hierarchy of the executive branch.

Can someone clarify who controls "independent" agencies like EPA and GAO and the Peace Corps?

Also, if a "department" is really a sub-department, we should not say something vague like not departments in same sense but just call them "sub-departments". --Uncle Ed 16:34, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

Budgets

Can someone find a newer source for department budgets? 2004 data seems a bit stale. CRGreathouse (t | c) 01:15, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Would someone check the 2009 budget and employee numbers? The individual amounts and numbers to not add up to the totals listed, by large margins.

Bmshulman (talk) 21:41, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

Title

I suggest renaming this article: "Executive departments of the United States Government." Instead of moving it, however, I would rather solicit comments.—Markles 02:26, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

details about the executive branch

okayyy, so just tell me some facts about the executive branch. because i really no VERY little about the topic. anything social studies related i have trouble with!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.238.227.224 (talk) 00:09, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

"Federal" or "National"?

The government and its subsidiary parts are a federal government. Whether it is in fact federal or is merely called "federal" may be discussed here on the talk page or may be addressed in the article, but the name of the article itself ought to be "United States federal executive departments." If, however, there is a consensus to change this to "national," then we should do it. Let's discuss to develop a consensus. —Markles 17:48, 12 January 2010 (UTC)

Federal refers to the fact that there 2 or more layers of sovereign governments. In the case of the USA, the National (or central) Government and the state governments. Using federal mashes the national and state governments all into one article when we are clearly only covering the national government. The national Department of State doesn't serve as say New York State's Department of State. Spshu (talk) 18:05, 12 January 2010 (UTC)

Actually, we could drop "Federal" or "National" as "United States" in the name makes it clear enough we are refering to the national government. Spshu (talk) 18:30, 12 January 2010 (UTC)

• Oppose "national" - Keep it federal, or drop federal (U.S. federal can be read as redundant). Read The Federalist No. 39 for justification. -- Foofighter20x (talk) 04:27, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

Thinking about how we would normal talk about them, I don't think we ever use federal or executive with departments. There aren't any legislative or judical departments by name, some times the legislative branch is refered to as the "legislative department", so perhaps it should just be rename "United States departments". As we are suppose to be being using the common name in usage. Spshu (talk) 19:35, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

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