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Squads as of which date?

What is the date we should use in determining club? Transfer window opens 1 June and some players will be changing clubs on that date. --Walter Görlitz (talk) 14:37, 7 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The first match of the tournament makes most sense to me. That's what all the other information refers to (e.g. head coach and caps). The transfer window doesn't open on 1 June in all countries by the way. mg SH 14:45, 7 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Since the rosters must be submitted by 29 May 2012, make that the cut-off date. --Walter Görlitz (talk) 15:04, 7 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Previous tournaments have used the start of the tournament (pre-match on 8 June) as the cut-off, so I think it makes sense to go with that, especially as some sides have friendlies between 29 May and the tournament. mg SH 17:03, 7 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Have seen that and will go with what has been done in the past. Should we display that somewhere to avoid the possible back-and-forth? --Walter Görlitz (talk) 17:45, 7 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Possibly in the meantime, but I don't know how. I imagine the dated note at the top of the page will suffice once the tournament has begun, but something that makes that clarification could be useful anyway. mg SH 19:03, 7 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

We would create an edit notice here. It may require an admin to create it. Would you mind creating the copy for it? --Walter Görlitz (talk) 19:10, 7 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know what the standard for creating one of those is and think we can probably manage without, so I'll leave you to it if you deem it necessary, is that's okay. mg SH 11:17, 8 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Germany player positions

Since dfb.de lists Th. Müller and Podolski as midfielders (not as forwards), shouldn't they be treated accordingly in this article? --Prof. Heizer (talk) 10:08, 9 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Must use the sources. --Walter Görlitz (talk) 13:57, 9 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Oh mir fuckin' god Podolski plays always as Left attacking midfielder in german national team, why he is listed as Foward? You have echt no Ahnung from gar nix. -.- too stupid to shit --84.137.51.47 (talk) 18:48, 16 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Walcott and Oxlade-Chamberlain - forwards or midfielders?

There seems to be a bit of confusion in the 'England' section about whether Theo Walcott and Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain are midfield players or forwards. They're both very similar players, and the little abbreviation for both says 'FW' (i.e. forward), yet Walcott is listed as an attacker and Oxlade-Chamberlain as a midfielder. Obviously, they're wingers, so I would suggest that in modern tactical discourse, they are attackers but is that the consensus on the subject or not? Just wondering. Thanks, PamukSoundystem (talk) 18:33, 16 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Similar players? I think most would disagree. Anyway, the source for England's squad (The FA's website) lists both as midfielders, so they should be treated as such on this page. mg SH 21:37, 16 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Protected

Now that this article has been protected until 17 June 2012 to keep it from well-meaning anonymous editors, could we have someone verify the rosters for correctness? I suspect that there will be a great many requests for changes as well. If you are requesting a change to this article please recognise that the rosters are based on the submitted references. Player positions are based on the positions that that national team has assigned the players, not the positions that they play for their home clubs. Also, the order is first by position (keeper, backfield, midfield, forwards) and then caps. --Walter Görlitz (talk) 18:37, 17 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I'll do Groups A and B, if you do C and D? mg SH 21:08, 17 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

That's my half done. Whoever ends up doing it shouldn't forget to remove unsourced squad numbers. mg SH 22:24, 17 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Netherlands

Robben is a forward (not a midfielder) and Schaars is a midfielder (not a defender). Can someone with a registered account kind enough to correct their positions? Thanks. 125.161.247.198 (talk) 06:10, 28 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Done. mg SH 07:37, 28 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Schaars is indeed a Midfielder, however he's been called up for this campaign as a defender. [1]

"Pieters’ absence will force midfielder Stijn Schaars into the left back role. The 28-year-old Dutchman has welcomed the challenge." LindaSportGirl (talk) 18:51, 28 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Confirmed Squad Numbers

Poland 1 Wojciech Szczęsny 2 Sebastian Boenisch 3 Grzegorz Wojtkowiak 4 Damien Perquis 5 Dariusz Dudka 6 Adam Matuszczyk 7 Eugen Polanski 8 Maciej Rybus 9 Robert Lewandowski 10 Ludovic Obraniak 11 Rafał Murawski 12 Grzegorz Sandomierski 13 Marcin Wasilewski 14 Jakub Wawrzyniak 15 Marcin Kamiński 16 Jakub Błaszczykowski 17 Artur Sobiech 18 Adrian Mierzejewski 19 Rafał Wolski 20 Łukasz Piszczek 21 Kamil Grosicki 22 Przemysław Tytoń 23 Paweł Brożek

1 Igor Akinfeev 2 Aleksandr Anyukov 3 Aleksei Berezutski 4 Sergei Ignashevich 5 Yuri Zhirkov 6 Roman Shirokov 7 Igor Denisov 8 Konstantin Zyryanov 9 Pavel Pogrebnyak 10 Andrei Arshavin 11 Marat Izmailov 12 Roman Sharonov 13 Anton Shunin 14 Vladimir Granat 15 Dmitri Kombarov 16 Vyacheslav Malafeev 17 Igor Semshov 18 Aleksandr Kokorin 19 Roman Pavlyuchenko 20 Aleksandr Kerzhakov 21 Kiril Nabakin 22 Alan Dzagoev 23 Denis Glushakov

Netherlands

1 Maarten Stekelenburg 2 Gregory van der Wiel 3 John Heitinga 4 Joris Mathijsen 5 Jetro Willems 6 Mark van Bommel 7 Dirk Kuyt 8 Nigel de Jong 9 Robin van Persie 10 Wesley Sneijder 11 Arjen Robben 12 Khalid Boulahrouz 13 Wilfred Bouma 14 Stijn Schaars 15 Ron Vlaar 16 Michel Vorm 17 Luciano Narsingh 18 Kevin Strootman 19 Klaas-Jan Huntelaar 20 Ibrahim Afellay 21 Luuk de Jong 22 Tim Krul 23 Rafael van der Vaart

Denmark

1 Thomas Sørensen 2 Christian Poulsen 3 Simon Kjær 4 Daniel Agger 5 Simon Poulsen 6 Lars Jacobsen 7 William Kvist 8 Christian Eriksen 9 Michael Krohn-Dehli 10 Dennis Rommedahl 11 Nicklas Bendtner 12 Andreas Bjelland 13 Jores Okore 14 Lasse Schøne 15 Michael Silberbauer 16 Stephan Andersen 17 Niklas Pedersen 18 Daniel Wass 19 Jakob Poulsen 20 Thomas Kahlenberg 21 Niki Zimling 22 Anders Lindegaard 23 Tobias Mikkelsen

Portugal

1 Eduardo 2 Bruno Alves 3 Pepe 4 Miguel Veloso 5 Fábio Coentrão 6 Custódio 7 Cristiano Ronaldo 8 João Moutinho 9 Hugo Almeida 10 Ricardo Quaresma 11 Nélson Oliveira 12 Rui Patrício 13 Ricardo Costa 14 Rolando 15 Rúben Micael 16 Raul Meireles 17 Nani 18 Silvestre Varela 19 Miguel Lopes 20 Hugo Viana 21 João Pereira 22 Beto 23 Hélder Postiga

Spain

1 Iker Casillas 2 Raúl Albiol 3 Gerard Piqué 4 Javi Martínez 5 Juanfran 6 Andrés Iniesta 7 Álvaro Negredo 8 Xavi Hernández 9 Fernando Torres 10 Cesc Fàbregas 11 Jordi Alba 12 Víctor Valdés 13 Juan Mata 14 Xabi Alonso 15 Sergio Ramos 16 Sergio Busquets 17 Álvaro Arbeloa 18 Pedro Rodríguez 19 Fernando Llorente 20 Santi Cazorla 21 David Silva 22 Jesús Navas 23 Pepe Reina

Ireland

1 Shay Given 2 Sean St Ledger 3 Stephen Ward 4 John O'Shea 5 Richard Dunne 6 Glenn Whelan 7 Aiden McGeady 8 Keith Andrews 9 Kevin Doyle 10 Robbie Keane 11 Damien Duff 12 Stephen Kelly 13 Paul McShane 14 Jonathan Walters 15 Darron Gibson 16 Keiren Westwood 17 Stephen Hunt 18 Darren O'Dea 19 Shane Long 20 Simon Cox 21 Paul Green 22 David Forde 23 James McClean

Sweden

1 Andreas Isaksson 2 Mikael Lustig 3 Olof Mellberg 4 Andreas Granqvist 5 Martin Olsson 6 Rasmus Elm 7 Sebastian Larsson 8 Anders Svensson 9 Kim Källström 10 Zlatan Ibrahimović 11 Johan Elmander 12 Johan Wiland 13 Jonas Olsson 14 Tobias Hysén 15 Mikael Antonsson 16 Pontus Wernbloom 17 Behrang Safari 18 Samuel Holmén 19 Emir Bajrami 20 Ola Toivonen 21 Christian Wilhelmsson 22 Markus Rosenberg 23 Pär Hansson

England

1 Joe Hart 2 Glen Johnson 3 Ashley Cole 4 Steven Gerrard 5 Gary Cahill 6 John Terry 7 Theo Walcott 8 Frank Lampard 9 Andy Carroll 10 Wayne Rooney 11 Ashley Young 12 Leighton Baines 13 Robert Green 14 Phil Jones 15 Joleon Lescott 16 James Milner 17 Scott Parker 18 Phil Jagielka 19 Stewart Downing 20 Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain 21 Jermain Defoe 22 Danny Welbeck 23 Jack Butland http://www.thefa.com/England/News/2012/england-euro-2012-squad-numbers.aspx — Preceding unsigned comment added by KarimM3mara (talk • contribs) 09:12, 28 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Source? mg SH 09:19, 28 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Preliminary Squad Numbers

Czech

1 Petr Čech 2 Theodor Gebre Selassie 3 Michal Kadlec 4 Marek Suchý 5 Roman Hubník 6 Tomáš Sivok 7 Tomáš Necid 8 Tomáš Pekhart 9 Jan Rezek 10 Tomáš Rosický 11 Milan Petržela 12 Daniel Pudil 13 Jaroslav Plašil 14 Václav Pilař 15 Milan Baroš 16 Jan Laštůvka 17 Tomáš Hübschman 18 Daniel Kolář 19 Petr Jiráček 20 František Rajtoral 21 David Lafata 22 David Limberský 23 Jaroslav Drobný 24 Tomáš Grigar 25 Vladimír Darida

Greece

1 Kostas Chalkias 2 Giannis Maniatis 3 Giorgos Tzavelas 4 Stelios Malezas 5 Kyriakos Papadopoulos 6 Alexandros Tziolis 7 Giorgos Samaras 8 Avraam Papadopoulos 9 Nikos Lyberopoulos 10 Giorgos Karagounis 11 Kostas Mitroglou 12 Alexandros Tzorvas 13 Michalis Sifakis 14 Dimitris Salpigidis 15 Vasilis Torosidis 16 Giorgos Fotakis 17 Theofanis Gekas 18 Sotiris Ninis 19 Sokratis Papastathopoulos 20 Panagiotis Kone 21 Kostas Katsouranis 22 Grigoris Makos 23 Giannis Fetfatzidis 24 Kostas Fortounis 25 Iosif Cholevas

Germany

1 Manuel Neuer 2 Ilkay Gündogan 3 Marcel Schmelzer 4 Benedikt Höwedes 5 Mats Hummels 6 Sami Khedira 7 Bastian Schweinsteiger 8 Mesut Özil 9 André Schürrle 10 Lukas Podolski 11 Miroslav Klose 12 Tim Wiese 13 Thomas Müller 14 Holger Badstuber 15 Cacau 16 Philipp Lahm 17 Per Mertesacker 18 Toni Kroos 19 Mario Götze 20 Jérôme Boateng 21 Marco Reus 22 Ron-Robert Zieler 23 Mario Gomez 24 Julian Draxler 25 Sven Bender 26 Lars Bender 27 Marc-André ter Stegen

Croatia

1 Stipe Pletikosa 2 Ivan Strinić 3 Josip Šimunić 4 Dejan Lovren 5 Vedran Ćorluka 6 Danijel Pranjić 7 Ivan Rakitić 8 Ognjen Vukojević 9 Nikica Jelavić 10 Luka Modrić 11 Darijo Srna 12 Ivan Kelava 13 Gordon Schildenfeld 14 Nikola Kalinić 15 Domagoj Vida 16 Tomislav Dujmović 17 Mario Mandžukić 18 Ivica Olić 19 Niko Kranjčar 20 Ivan Perišić 21 Šime Vrsaljko 22 Eduardo da Silva 23 Danijel Subašić 27 Goran Blažević 26 Jurica Buljat 25 Ivo Iličević 24 Milan Badelj 25 Ivo Iličević 26 Jurica Buljat 27 Goran Blažević

France

1 Hugo Lloris 2 Mathieu Debuchy 3 Patrice Evra 4 Adil Rami 5 Philippe Mexès 6 Yohan Cabaye 7 Franck Ribéry 8 Yoann Gourcuff 9 Olivier Giroud 10 Karim Benzema 11 Samir Nasri 12 Blaise Matuidi 13 Anthony Réveillère 14 Jérémy Ménez 15 Florent Malouda 16 Steve Mandanda 17 Yann M'Vila 18 Alou Diarra 19 Marvin Martin 20 Hatem Ben Arfa 21 Mathieu Valbuena 22 Gaël Clichy 23 Cédric Carrasso 24 Laurent Koscielny 25 Mapou Yanga-Mbiwa — Preceding unsigned comment added by KarimM3mara (talk • contribs) 09:21, 28 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Greek Player Dimitris Salpigidis, Tzavelas,Giorgos, Nikos Lyberopoulos

Dimitris Salpigidis is called Salpingidis -> Salpi(n)gidis Tzavelas,Giorgos is Tzavellas,Giorgos -> Tzavel(l)as Nikos Lyberopoulos is Liberopoulos,Nikos -> Nikos L(ie)beropoulos

- These errors may occur on other wikipedia entries — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.78.64.197 (talk) 14:49, 28 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Wrong numbers in Poland national football team

There is correct: source uefa.com Goalkeepers 1 - Wojciech Szczęsny, 12 - Grzegorz Sandomierski, 22 - Przemysław Tytoń. Defenders: 2 - Sebastian Boenisch, 3 - Grzegorz Wojtkowiak, 4 - Marcin Kamiński, 13 - Marcin Wasilewski, 14 - Jakub Wawrzyniak, 15 - Damien Perquis, 20 - Łukasz Piszczek. Midfielders: 5 - Dariusz Dudka, 6 - Adam Matuszczyk, 7 - Eugen Polanski, 8 - Maciej Rybus, 10 - Ludovic Obraniak, 11 - Rafał Murawski, 16 - Jakub Błaszczykowski, 18 - Adrian Mierzejewski, 19 - Rafał Wolski, 21 - Kamil Grosicki. Forwards: 9 - Robert Lewandowski, 17 - Artur Sobiech, 23 - Paweł Brożek.

Changes: Kamiński 15 -> 4

         Perquis    4 -> 15
         Wolski     17 -> 19
         Sobiech    19 -> 17  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Neo1991pl (talk • contribs) 05:16, 30 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Markus Rosenberg

Markus Rosenberg (Sweden) should be listed as a player of Werder Bremen instead of free agent, since his contract does not expire until 30 June 2012 and other players with expiring contracts (eg Sebastian Boenisch, Khalid Boulahrouz) are listed as players of their current clubs. — Preceding unsigned comment added by M zu dem U (talk • contribs) 07:00, 30 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Spanish (and portuguese) names

Why everyone has the whole name, except some of the spanish and portuguese players? The three spanish players I talk use their first name because they have extremely common surnames, but they should have their whole name in a list. They are Xavi Hernandez, Pedro Rodriguez and Juanfran Torres. Same thing for some of the portuguese names, so a portuguese guy should suggest how to put it properly. Thanks.. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Txabs77 (talk • contribs) 15:54, 31 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Probably because of WP:COMMONNAME and these are the common uses of their names in English. While that applies to article titles it is commonly used for names in articles. --Walter Görlitz (talk) 16:06, 31 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The common use of the name of English players is only the surname, and they appear with their full name. But specially Juanfran is important, because another different Juanfran (Garcia), played the 2002 World Cup, and in the 2002 WC squad article is listed as Juanfran too, and they both play as right defenders for Atl. Madrid, and it could drive to mistake. This one is Juanfran Torres. Xavi and Pedro are usually referred in spanish media as Xavi Hernandez and Pedro Rodriguez, specially since Xabi (alonso) get to Real, to distinguish them Txabs77 (talk

As has been mentioned, in the English media and in everyday life, you'll only ever see it as Xavi. Xavi Hernández? Never or very rarely. Given that this is an English-speaking encyclopaedia, I don't think the Spanish media is too relevant. mg SH 17:13, 31 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The English media also refer English players by their surnames only and it doesn't stop it to write them properly. And given that English is international speaking language, I assumed this article is not only for English speaking countries, but for everyone. http://www.uefa.com/uefaeuro/season=2012/teams/team=122/squad/index.html http://rfef.es/index.jsp?nodo=39&ID=5152 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Txabs77 (talk • contribs) 07:48, 1 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

It is common to use family names. It is uncommon to use given name only and so when it happens there is generally a good reason for it. Sobriquets and nicknames are are also frequently used in sports media however we don't use them. COMMONNAME is the key here. --Walter Görlitz (talk) 13:18, 1 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I dont want to bore you guys, but just try to type Pedro or Juanfran on the search box (You're right with Xavi in English, not in Spanish). We have at least 4 football players named Pedro (only one in La Liga now, plus one in Belgium and two in second division), and two Juanfran (both in la Liga, both in Spain national team). If an encyclopedia cannot be ambiguous, I cant understand why so many problems just to call them as Spanish Federation or UEFA do. Thank you for your attention. Txabs — Preceding unsigned comment added by Txabs77 (talk • contribs) 10:18, 2 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Please change them then. It's not hugely important to me either way and I was mainly aiming for consistency with older articles in truth. mg SH 21:37, 2 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Celtic players

Please note - Poland's Paweł Brożek is Trabzonspor player (NOT Celtic, he was there on loan), Ireland's Darren O'Dea is free agent (NOT Celtic player, his contract expired in May) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.108.67.168 (talk) 16:42, 1 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Jordan Henderson and Scott Parker's squad numbers

Jordan Henderson will wear the number 8 shirt for England; Scott Parker will wear #17. http://www.uefa.com/uefaeuro/season=2012/teams/team=39/index.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.28.169.76 (talk) 16:47, 1 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

What happened?

Not sure what happened, but when editing the article you can see the number of goals scored, but when checking the article they are not visible. I'm not long enough on Wikipedia to find out what went wrong here, to solve the issue. LindaSportGirl (talk) 21:11, 2 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Someone removed them in favour of sortable tables. I've reverted them to regain consistency with previous articles and provide more relevant information, so that we're on the safe side. mg SH 15:04, 5 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Arshavin

Arshavin is still an Arsenal player, only on loan at Zenit. http://www.arsenal.com/first-team/players/andrey-arshavin

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Could you please check the appearance number of Werder Bremen which should be 4 instead as 3.

Also could you please check the appearance of Birmingham City and West Ham United which should appear as 1. And PSV has 7 players in the EURO 2012 (all listed in the selection tables), but is in the table at 6 players. So this should be 7. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.159.126.246 (talk) 10:11, 6 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Best Regards

88.235.12.255 (talk) 08:35, 4 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Done thanks for pointing this out. Egg Centri c 14:45, 5 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Players should be listed as representing the team they played for last season, not their recent transfer

Every club receives 270,000 Euros for each player they have participating in the tournament, so here is my issue, Dirk Kuyt is listed as a Fenerbahce player with the Netherlands, however he was called up as a Liverpool player, and Liverpool are the club which will be entitled to the money not Fenerbahce, I think the squads on the actual Wikipedia pages should be updated to represent their current club, but this list should stay true to where the players were last season. Dirk Kuyt was a Liverpool player when the squad was announced. Lasse Schone from Denmark is a good example of this, he transfered to AFC Ajax at the beginning of this month, however he is rightfully listed as an NEC Nijmegen player in this list, because they are the club who will be getting compensated for the player and not Ajax. That is also where he played at the end of the 2011/12 season. I'm sure there are other players with this issue in the list, but these were the two I noticed and felt compelled to bring attention to.

Club count wrong

Someone may need to redo the club count, I can't as I don't have an account. Liverpool are listed as having 8 players but they have 9.

This is because in the club count Kuyt is already listed as a Fenerbahce player, even though he only signed for them and still did not play for them. Fenerbahce should be removed from the list and Liverpool's number of players should be fixed to 9.Celtic1985 (talk) 16:12, 16 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Ćorluka

Ćorluka is a Tottenham player on loan. http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Vedran_%C4%86orluka — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.29.142.112 (talk) 10:49, 13 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Caps and Goals

The appearances and goals shouldn't be only up to 8 June? Someone his updating with the Euro 2012 caps and goals. For instance: Portuguese Cristiano Ronaldo on 8 June had 90 caps and 32 goals. As of today, 19 June, he has 93 and 34.

I think it should be kept before Euro commences (8 June). Demon Witch (talk) 11:04, 21 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The article says "Caps and goals correct as of 18 June 2012", but a user has been updating without updating that statement. Will we be updating this page every time a player gets another cap or another goal in the next 10 years? I think we should freeze the numbers at the pre tournament levels. Nczempin (talk) 08:42, 29 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The article is turned into a complete mess. Figures should remain frozen with the starting date of the tournament. Somoene has updated the caps and the scored goals gradually with the tournament.--Preacher lad (talk) 10:13, 15 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

This issue is still unresolved and needs attention.Tffff (talk) 10:02, 1 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]