Talk:U.S. ISDE Team

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Are these four categories made up?

I can't find any mention of the four categories Ambassadors, Trailblazer, Pioneers and Qualified/Selected Participants anywhere. Were these terms made up for this Wikipedia list? --Dennis Bratland (talk) 15:25, 12 June 2019 (UTC)

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US ISDE Team

The titles of the divisions of the US ISDE Team Pariticipants was put together by Mark Vancil (which was deleted for some reason), who hand typed the lists of entrants since 1972 to keep record of every US Rider who had participated in the event. He created the name Trailblazer, meaning the first riders to go. Ambassadors as riders who have been more than 10 times. Pioneers are the first riders who went, before there was a qualification process and Qualified riders as those who earned a spot on the team through the qualifiers. All of these riders have been verified through paper results produced by the FIM through out the years. Erekkudla (talk) 19:38, 27 August 2019 (UTC)

The article history has edit summaries where you give a short description of your edit. The reasons fo deleting of content are there. A number of images were deleted because they were copyright violations. I removed what was obviously original research, which you have confirmed. It's great that Mark Vancil hand typed these lists, but that is original research. Wikipedia's no original research policy means we don't use information individuals collected themselves. We use content that is verifiable. That means published in a reliable source, and something others have the opportunity to find and verify. It doesn't have to be online. Offline sources are fine. But it has to be at least possible for someone to go and buy the book or magazine or whatever publication it is. Or to go to a library somewhere in the world and check it. It's OK if it's a little difficult to verify. But if it's impossible to verify, we can't use it.

When you say there are "paper results produced by the FIM through out the years", you need to cite that. A citation is a usable description of what the published source is. Generally, it includes the title, author, publisher, and page number, depending on the source. See Wikipedia:Citing sources for various options and approaches to citation. But that assumes you have seen these published FIM records. If you got them from someone else -- Mark Vancil's unpublished typed papers, that is self-published and we can't use it.

You should click on the links I have posted right here, and carefully read these policies and guidelines to understand how and why this works the way it does. --Dennis Bratland (talk) 20:04, 27 August 2019 (UTC)