Talk:Tyre Nichols protests

This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the Tyre Nichols protests article.
This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject.

Put new text under old text. Click here to start a new topic.
New to Wikipedia? Welcome! Learn to edit; get help.

Article policies

Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL

This page is not a forum for general discussion about Tyre Nichols protests. Any such comments may be removed or refactored. Please limit discussion to improvement of this article. You may wish to ask factual questions about Tyre Nichols protests at the Reference desk.

While the biographies of living persons policy does not apply directly to the subject of this article, it may contain material that relates to living persons, such as friends and family of persons no longer living, or living persons involved in the subject matter. Unsourced or poorly sourced contentious material about living persons must be removed immediately. If such material is re-inserted repeatedly, or if there are other concerns related to this policy, please see this noticeboard.

Black Lives Matter High‑importance

	This article is within the scope of WikiProject Black Lives Matter, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Black Lives Matter on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.Black Lives MatterWikipedia:WikiProject Black Lives MatterTemplate:WikiProject Black Lives MatterBlack Lives Matter
High	This article has been rated as High-importance on the importance scale.
	This article was created or improved during WikiProject Black Lives Matter's July 2020 edit-a-thon.

Crime and Criminal Biography Low‑importance

	This article is within the scope of WikiProject Crime and Criminal Biography, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Crime and Criminal Biography articles on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.Crime and Criminal BiographyWikipedia:WikiProject Crime and Criminal BiographyTemplate:WikiProject Crime and Criminal BiographyCrime-related
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

Death Low‑importance

	This article is within the scope of WikiProject Death, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Death on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.DeathWikipedia:WikiProject DeathTemplate:WikiProject DeathDeath
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

Law Enforcement Low‑importance

	Law portal This article is within the scope of the WikiProject Law Enforcement. Please Join, Create, and Assess.Law EnforcementWikipedia:WikiProject Law EnforcementTemplate:WikiProject Law EnforcementLaw enforcement
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the importance scale.

Tennessee Low‑importance

	Tennessee portal Tyre Nichols protests is within the scope of WikiProject Tennessee, an open collaborative effort to coordinate work for and sustain comprehensive coverage of Tennessee and related subjects in the Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, you can edit the article attached to this page, and even become a member. [Project Articles] • [Project Page] • [Project Talk] • [Assessment] • [Template Usage]TennesseeWikipedia:WikiProject TennesseeTemplate:WikiProject TennesseeTennessee
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

United States: History Low‑importance

	United States portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject United States, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of topics relating to the United States of America on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the ongoing discussions. Template Usage Articles Requested! Become a Member Project Talk Alerts United StatesWikipedia:WikiProject United StatesTemplate:WikiProject United StatesUnited States
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.
	This article is supported by WikiProject U.S. history.

Merge issue

There is clear consensus to merge the two pages and rough consensus for Tyre Nichols protests as the merge target. The merge has already happened. As this is a WP:SNOW close, it would not bother me to re-open this if someone has a substantive, policy-based reason to keep the pages split or to settle the merged article at 2023 Memphis protests. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 04:51, 30 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

@PopularGames and ElijahPepe: Couldn't help but notice an emerging edit war here. How about y'all discuss the matter of merging here instead of in edit summaries. The page was redirect and then reverted, so now is the time to follow WP:BRD. TornadoLGS (talk) 02:52, 28 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Copying what I said on my talk page:

Thank you for being forthcoming about what you hope to achieve. I believe we have a communication issue here with two separate pages, and it is likely that this situation will change faster than an AfD discussion can be closed.
I'm not opposed to two separate pages but, I agree, there is a difficult situation here. I created my page five minutes before yours and, going off of the titles, it seems as though "2023 Memphis protests" covers exclusively protests in Memphis. I believe we should take this to another talk page to get more attention from other editors

elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 02:58, 28 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Comment ― It seems clear that we need to cover all protests (national and international) related to the killing of Tyre Nichols. Whether there is enough media attention and popular resistance to consider having two separate articles remains to be seen, in my opinion. Cheers! 98.155.8.5 (talk) 03:40, 28 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Wait - it could wound up like the George Floyd protests, where there was a broader article (George Floyd Protests) and a specific sub article dedicated to the George Floyd protests in Minneapolis–Saint Paul. Whether or not this will apply to this situation however remains to be seen. Merge for now - there may need be reason for future expansion of the Memphis article if the protests as a whole expand, but for now, lets just integrate it into the Tyre Nichos Protests article. Knightoftheswords281 (talk) 06:27, 28 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

If the topic are the same thing then maybe merge this into the Memphis protest. Cwater1 (talk) 05:46, 28 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Merge. Clearly relating to the same incident. Others can decide on the preferred title. WWGB (talk) 06:07, 28 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Merge - Two aticles talking about the same thing should be merged. The ⬡ Bestagon ^T/_C 06:29, 28 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Merge Tyre Nichols protests into 2023 Memphis protests — currently a content fork. The protests outside Memphis currently aren’t notable enough to have their own article. Furthermore, both articles might fail WP:GNG unless there is some escalation (e.g. officers being found not guilty) that causes much more significant protesting and/or rioting than there currently is. Sewageboy (talk) 08:21, 28 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Merge—There is no clear difference between the protests described in each article. Compusolus (talk) 08:33, 28 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Merge I agree. Unless something happens in Memphis that is significantly different than what's happening in other cities, users just need one page about the Tyre Nichols protests. 173.187.146.67 (talk) 13:55, 28 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Merge into Tyre Nichols protests. "2023 Memphis protests" title is vague while Tyre Nichols protests is self-explanatory (and not scoped to one location). --Deansfa (talk) 18:00, 28 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Merge Nswix (talk) 18:30, 28 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Merge — 2023 Memphis protests into Tyre Nichols protests. Better to have a broader, less specific (regional) title so that it can encompass all protests. Having Tyre Nichols in the name is also important, as it will be useful for search, and defines what the article is about more clearly, and more obviously at first glance. Cheers. 98.155.8.5 (talk) 19:56, 28 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Merge into Tyre Nichols protests. There exists huge overlap with the two pages, and since the protests are national, Memphis is (at the moment) non-notable except as the epicenter. I think the titling of George Floyd protests should serve as a precedent for the titling of Tyre Nichols protests as it also was a national occurrence. Captain Infinity (talk) 21:12, 28 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
This is clearly a snow merge; would someone like to make a start on the merge? WWGB (talk) 06:06, 29 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Merge into Tyre Nichols protests per above. Or even just delete this article. Paris1127 (talk) 06:46, 29 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Merge - not much material for a separate article right now. MSG17 (talk) 16:32, 29 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Merge – Cheers! {{u|WikiWikiWayne}} {Talk} 21:12, 29 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Comment ― Also just to point out: there are articles in the Vietnamese and French languages for the Tyre Nichols protests page. So it seems appropriate to keep this title, as it is becoming the main article. Cheers! 98.155.8.5 (talk) 22:32, 29 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Colorado Springs

There was a Tyre Nichols protest in Colorado Springs on February 4, but I'm not sure "Fight Back News" would pass muster as WP:RS. What say you all? Kire1975 (talk) 23:02, 28 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]