Talk:Turkish Straits crisis

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Visit of USS Missouri

As far as I understand in USS_Missouri_(BB-63), the Battleship did not pass through the Turkish Straits into the Black Sea but only visited a port within the Bosphorus. This is not a violation of the Montreux Convention but explicitly allowed in Article 17: 'Nothing (...) shall prevent a naval force (...) from paying a courtesy visit (...) to a port in the Straits, at the invitation of the Turkish Government.' Therefore the claim of a violation of the treaty is not justified. 2.246.119.150 (talk) 03:42, 9 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

needs fine-tuning

" Until the second half of the 1930s, Soviet-Turkish relations were warm and somewhat fraternal " <-- well, considering they were enemies in WWI prior to the Russian Revolution, we need a beginning date here from the Source. 50.111.44.54 (talk) 17:53, 7 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Also, the Montreux Convention article describes the Treaty differently. This article should be changed, as is does not give an accurate description. 2601:647:5800:7D80:D945:EDEC:9CC0:A965 (talk) 18:50, 27 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You both should consult the changes that are being made. Although the Treaty of Moscow in 1921 was already in the article, the Bolshevik military aid to Ataturk in the summer of 1920 now further contextualizes their early relations. As you acknowledge, we are talking about two different countries - the Russian Empire and the Soviet Union - so going into World War I in great detail (i.e. battles/politics) beyond its affect on the straits is excessive.

As for your completely unspecific characterization of the Montreux details, I've now elaborated on the provisions with several English-language sources from academic journals. It is worth noting that the Montreux article simply omits Article 3, which required mandatory stops for sanitation inspections, as well as the Turkish option to impose fees on ships which pass through the straits without stopping at a Turkish port. At the same time, the Montreux article elaborates on the notification process for non-Black Sea and Black Sea warships, while this article solely mentions that foreign nations had to give prior notice for passage and summarizes the warsship restrictions. Those details may become relevant in relation to WWII controversy over Montreux or Soviet demands. If something remains contradictory, please point it out. -User:1Matt20(talk) 2:32 17 March 2022 (UTC)