Talk:Tumescent liposuction

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June 2013

At present, this article reads more like an advertisement for the tumescent liposuction procedure rather than an objective reference article. It makes no mention of the many risks involved in the procedure, including lidocaine overdose, infection, and death.

See: http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/money/perfi/basics/story/2011-09-13/cosmetic-surgery-investigation/50395494/1

Rao, R. B., Ely, S. F., & Hoffman, R. S. (1999). Deaths related to liposuction. New England Journal of Medicine, 340(19), 1471-1475. http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJM199905133401904 — Preceding unsigned comment added by LafayetteDeTocqueville (talk • contribs) 13:08, 9 June 2013‎

The Tumescent Liposuction page reads like an advertisement, is misleading, seems like WP:OR and like a sales pitch without mentioning risks and long-term outcomes. I suggest adding this to the lead, "While the suctioned fat cells are permanently gone, after a few months overall body fat generally returned to the same level as before treatment.^[1] This is despite maintaining the previous diet and exercise regimen. While the fat returned somewhat to the treated area, most of the increased fat occurred in the abdominal area. Visceral fat - the fat surrounding the internal organs - increased, and this condition has been linked to life-shortening diseases such as diabetes, stroke, and heart attack."^[2] Juliet Sabine (talk) 07:29, 1 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Hernandez TL, Kittelson JM, Law CK, Ketch LL, Stob NR, Lindstrom RC, Scherzinger A, Stamm ER, Eckel RH. 2011. Fat Redistribution Following Suction Lipectomy: Defense of Body Fat and Patterns of Restoration. Obesity 19:1388–1395.
^ Hernandez TL, Kittelson JM, Law CK, Ketch LL, Stob NR, Lindstrom RC, Scherzinger A, Stamm ER, Eckel RH. 2011. Fat Redistribution Following Suction Lipectomy: Defense of Body Fat and Patterns of Restoration. Obesity 19:1388–1395.

Candidacy

I suggest adding a section titled, "Candidacy" with this line, "One might question who is a good candidate for increased visceral fat, which the procedure causes, as well as risks of surgery." ^[1] Juliet Sabine (talk) 08:21, 16 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Hernandez TL, Kittelson JM, Law CK, Ketch LL, Stob NR, Lindstrom RC, Scherzinger A, Stamm ER, Eckel RH. 2011. Fat Redistribution Following Suction Lipectomy: Defense of Body Fat and Patterns of Restoration. Obesity 19:1388–1395.

Risks

The first line reads "A 2011 review said tumescent liposuction was safe." I challenge this line, it's poorly worded, misleading, reads like WP:OR and a sales pitch. I suggest removing it. Tumescent liposuction is surgery -- there are injuries and complications caused by it, as well as long-term consequences. Liposuction is often paid by cash and done in outpatient ambulatory centers -- the harm and deaths are and not followed in a comprehensive way. No unbiased systematic data have been collected on morbidity and mortality risks of outpatient surgery. Juliet Sabine (talk) 05:06, 3 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

November 2017

I agree with you. Risks and long-term outcomes need to be listed. Juliet Sabine (talk) 08:24, 28 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Reverted to version by Sandy

Statements like this "Because tumescent local anesthesia lasts so long, tumescent liposuction is less painful and more pleasant than liposuction under general anesthesia or intravenous sedation." among many others need high quality references.[1] Thus reverted back until they are provided. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 01:05, 21 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It read like over the top advertising. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 01:06, 21 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Risks: There are other risks that ought to be mentioned such as lidocaine toxicity, nerve damage, and many more. I will get something together to add to the page as time permits. This page, as noted by several people, reads as WP:OR, and a sales pitch. Juliet Sabine (talk) 23:58, 2 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

[1] Hernandez TL, Kittelson JM, Law CK, Ketch LL, Stob NR, Lindstrom RC, Scherzinger A, Stamm ER, Eckel RH. 2011. Fat Redistribution Following Suction Lipectomy: Defense of Body Fat and Patterns of Restoration. Obesity 19:1388–1395.

[2] Hernandez TL, Kittelson JM, Law CK, Ketch LL, Stob NR, Lindstrom RC, Scherzinger A, Stamm ER, Eckel RH. 2011. Fat Redistribution Following Suction Lipectomy: Defense of Body Fat and Patterns of Restoration. Obesity 19:1388–1395.

[3] Hernandez TL, Kittelson JM, Law CK, Ketch LL, Stob NR, Lindstrom RC, Scherzinger A, Stamm ER, Eckel RH. 2011. Fat Redistribution Following Suction Lipectomy: Defense of Body Fat and Patterns of Restoration. Obesity 19:1388–1395.

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