Talk:Trolls World Tour

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DJ Suki

Note that DJ Suki has yet to have a confirmed voice actor. This does not mean she has no appearance in the movie, its just we have yet to have it confirm. There are a few people who have presumed she will return from the start and thus far at best its only confirmed she has a doll from one of the merchandise lines and perhaps has a cameo. 2.102.217.195 (talk) 18:29, 5 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Very old post, but DJ Suki did not appear in the movie. Super yoshi013021 (talk) 01:54, 22 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Should we close this topic? Super yoshi013021 (talk) 01:57, 22 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delayed

It's also delayed by coronavirus concerns — Preceding unsigned comment added by 181.222.81.172 (talk) 02:10, 14 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Is there really no cinema release for this film AT ALL?

This is what it says now:

"It was originally set to be theatrically released in the United States on April 10, 2020. However, due to the 2019–20 coronavirus pandemic, the film will instead be released directly to digital rental."

Does this mean that the film isn't going to get any sort of cinema release in the U.S.? Not even the limited release? Wasn't it supposed to be released in VOD and in cinemas on the exact same day?

I'm afraid there won't be a cinema release for the film anymore. The tagline for the film's promotional material have changed to "The World Premiere Comes Home April 10th. "Get Tickets Now" areas on the official website have also been removed, and the RealD and IMAX logos have been removed from newer TV spots, meaning that the film's 3D and IMAX screenings have been scrapped. Elijah Abrams (talk) 20:54, 6 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The sources say that the film will be released in theaters and digitally on the same day, not that the theatrical release has been cancelled. If the theatrical release is cancelled, then that would need a cited source. – wallyfromdilbert (talk) 23:49, 6 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Those sources have likely become outdated. The film's Twitter page now says that it will just be released at home on April 10th. Elijah Abrams (talk) 04:59, 7 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Where are you seeing that it is "only" or "just" being released on digital rental? You should be citing a source if you are going to put that into the article, rather than inferring it based on information being taken off the website or social media accounts. – wallyfromdilbert (talk) 05:10, 7 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Here is the most recent source I could find about the US theatrical release: [1]. – wallyfromdilbert (talk) 17:01, 7 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry to disappoint you, but those theatres you mentioned are gonna have to close for safety reasons! The Van Buren in Riverside is now closed as well! Elijah Abrams (talk) 20:56, 7 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Please stop edit warring to reinsert information that is unsourced and has been removed now by both me and another editor. You are going past WP:3RR, and none of your sources support your claims. Your original research is irrelevant, and instead what you are claiming needs to be explicitly said in reliable sources. The Deadline article I posted above also contradicts what you are saying. – wallyfromdilbert (talk) 21:06, 7 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

How's this for proof, User:Wallyfromdilbert? Proof that the theatrical release is no longer happening, now that it is a digital film: [2] Elijah Abrams (talk) 02:44, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

For the record, I agree with everything Wallyfromdilbert said in this thread and only want to add that your edit summaries have been unnecessarily disruptive. Aoi (青い) (talk) 14:00, 8 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Aside from the fact that Box Office Mojo still says the movie is playing "wide" in theatres and that articles like this (https://www.joblo.com/movie-news/drive-ins-provide-box-office-with-its-only-pulse-over-the-weekend) saying these theatres were open last weekend, the only theatres I could find that are open this weekend showing the movie are the Galaxy Drive-In in Ennis, TX; the West Wind Drive-In in Glendale, AZ; the West Wind Drive-In in Sacramento, CA; the Ocala Drive-In in Florida; King Drive-In in Russellville, AL; and the Lake Worth in Palm Springs, FL. - Cineplex (talk) 7:36PM - April 8, 2020

@Cineplex: Thank you, that information is very helpful. Aoi (青い) (talk) 05:11, 9 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Aoi:@Wallyfromdilbert: Do any of you know other movie theatres anywhere in the world showing the film this weekend other than the six Drive-Ins mentioned above? Also, BOM removed the film from it's release calendar where it was listed as "Wide". If not, could I message you guys the link to my Change.org petition for Walt Dohrn and cinema chains to show the film after the pandemic is over? I could really use some help! - Cineplex (talk) 11:05PM - April 9, 2020

This Variety article from yesterday mentions 20 theaters [3]. Might as well see what articles say later in the week. I would assume they will mention the theater box office in reliable sources pretty soon, and no reason to rush putting information into the article. (Btw, Cineplex, I am not interested in any advocacy, and you should probably use non-Wikipedia pages to advertise it per WP:PROMO). – wallyfromdilbert (talk) 15:15, 10 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Like what non-Wikipedia pages should I advertise this on and how? - Cineplex (talk) 9:35PM - April 10, 2020

Semi-protection needed

Can someone please make the article semi-protected? A lot of anonymous users have been altering the article frequently, thinking that the movie will still have a theatrical release in tandem with the VOD one, when it clearly is not going to anymore, because all of the theatres have shuttered. Elijah Abrams (talk) 20:56, 6 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Requests for page protection should be made at the noticeboard: WP:RPP. – wallyfromdilbert (talk) 17:02, 7 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Misleading sidebar

The financial information on budget and box-office in the sidebar is misleading because it makes the movie look like a complete failure, when it was anything but. A line with digital rental revenue should be added to reflect its success online. Selwun (talk) 07:55, 5 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The gross figure in the Infobox is for the theatrical box office and does not normally include the home media or video on demand revenue. Film articles need to try to keep things consistent somehow. The rental revenues can and should be explained in the article body.

The article has since been changed to be misleading in a different way, taking the box office reported by Box Office Mojo and adding an extra million based on a May 12, 2020 IndieWire article that claimed "Though no figures have been reported, sources have suggested “Trolls World Tour” is approaching $1 million in theatrical gross."

As of May 24, Box Office Mojo lists the gross as $2,792,571 and The Numbers lists the gross as $3,049,918. Using WP:CALC to add unofficial estimates to the gross figure listed in the infobox seems not only dubious and inappropriate, but also increasingly inaccurate over time. -- 109.78.193.115 (talk) 21:57, 24 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

It does not seem appropriate for an encyclopedia to include unofficial estimates and make unexplained calculations, especially not in the Infobox. It seems more appropriate to explain all the available information in the Box office section article, so I have expanded the article text and replaced the Infobox gross figure with the gross reported by The-Numbers.com (slightly higher than Box office mojo at the time of writing). -- 109.78.193.115 (talk) 22:19, 24 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

An editor did it again without any edit summary to explain why? I think the Infobox should use the sources that are available and not try to "correct" them by calculation new figures, based on unofficial speculative estimates that are increasingly out of date.

It takes a little bit more effort but it is far better to explain this kind of less precise information with words in the Box office section. If there is a consensus to allow such calculations and include these figures in the infobox anyway, there should at least be a clear and visible warning for readers such as a footnote (not only a hidden comment only for editors). -- 109.77.204.149 (talk) 21:45, 25 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Box office gross

The box office (“gross”) section of the infobox should include the domestic gross, as well as the foreign. The film has made money in the US theaters, that’s a fact, so listing just foreign territories is a bit disingenuous, in my opinion. IndieWire and Deadline have both cited the current US gross (from mostly drive-ins) at about $1 million, and including a “reported from insiders based off estimates” in the infobox is not without precedent. It’s done with Netflix films, namely The Irishman, which made about $7 million from theaters in the US despite no “official” reports (and just $950k elsewhere). At this current point, I’m going to revert to the simply foreign gross in the infobox, and add a note. But let me know y’all thoughts. TropicAces (talk) 21:43, 27 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

TropicAces thinks this is a simple calculation, but it looks more like WP:SYNTHESIS to me and it is misleading to put what he freely admits are only estimates in the infobox. That it needs such a long footnote to explain itself shows how dubious it is.

By all means add detailed text to the article body and explain properly it in the Box office section. There's no need to try and make the box office gross figure in the Infobox look bigger. It would be better if gross in the Infobox stuck to what the reliable sources actually say, without adding extra from rumors and estimates. -- 109.79.65.133 (talk) 22:16, 29 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

This is still a mess. This kind over emphasis on the Infobox keeps happening despite the guidelines clearly stating the purpose of an infobox: to summarize (and not supplant) key facts that appear in the article

Box office mojo says the worldwide gross was $47.6 million[4] and The-Numbers says $48.8 million[5]. Rather than accept what either the reliable sources are saying editors have presumed they know better, and synthesized a different figure. If editors believe the reliable sources have made a mistake they should take it up with Box Office Mojo or The-Numbers.com, as editors have done before, see Wikipedia:WikiProject Film/Film finance task force. It is not acceptable to ignore reliable sources like this.

The Infobox still list a synthesized gross figure of $51.3 million (with a hidden and long explanatory note), but editors have failed to match or explain this information in the Box office section of the article. Even if you believe you know better and you really think it is appropriate to ignore the reliable sources and use the synthesized $51.3 million gross figure, it is still not an excuse to neglect the Box office section which should match the Infobox. Again WP:INFOBOXPURPOSE.

The best way to fix this is to consistently use the figures from Box Office Mojo or The-Number.com. I am going to update the article to do that. -- 109.76.197.121 (talk) 23:43, 13 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I have changed the Infobox to use the reliable sources and included the gross reported by Box Office Mojo. It is important to keep the Infobox as clear and simple as possible, to summarize like the guidelines say. Overcomplicating the Infobox and including hidden explanatory notes is not a good way to present information to readers of an encyclopedia.

I have expanded the article body and attempted to make the Box office section clearer, by explaining that Deadline Hollywood specifically said media outlets including Box Office Mojo underreported, and to also note that The-Numbers reported a slightly higher total gross.

Ultimately a few million here or there doesn't matter. The gross was only a fraction of the budget (at least $90 million) and we don't even know how much was spent on marketing. The studio took big loss. Nonetheless they decided to make a third film, so it cannot have been a total failure. So again there is no good reason to overcomplicate the Infobox. -- 109.76.197.121 (talk) 02:00, 14 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Silmarillion

Short of explicitly calling barb's group "Ang(ry)Band" and having the strings physically hurt her, this is basically the first third.

Trolls 3's title

It says that a sequel titled “Trolls Band Together” is coming next year. However, it seems that the name “Trolls Band Together” is only a trademark from what I remember, should I change that to just “Trolls 3”? Super yoshi013021 (talk) 01:53, 22 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Trolls world tour plot

When rock troll ruler Barbara(Rachel Bloom),destroys all other music for uniting the trolls under rock, poppy and branch save other music from rock music.🎸⚡️🤘 220.158.190.42 (talk) 04:38, 18 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]