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Sources

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  • Artists, Advertising, and the Borders of Art. Michele H. Bogart. 1995. p 1
  • American Mirror: The Life and Art of Norman Rockwell. Deborah Solomon. 2013. p. 335
  • American Faces: A Cultural History of Portraiture and Identity Richard H. Saunders. 2016. https://www.jstor.org/stable/j.ctv1xx9cbh

JSTOR has some passing mentions that can be used -- In actu (Guerillero) Parlez Moi 11:41, 17 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Did you know nomination

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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: rejected by reviewer, closed by BorgQueen talk 16:32, 23 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Created by Guerillero (talk). Self-nominated at 19:52, 21 July 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Triple Self-Portrait; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

General eligibility:

Policy compliance:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation

QPQ: No - Not done.
Overall: Article moved to mainspace on 18 July. The length is an edge case in absolute terms—it either barely falls short of 1,500 character or barely makes it, depending on exactly how one counts the characters. This seems like a subject that more could be written about, so I'm going to go with "too short" for now. All sources are, as far as I can tell, reliable for the material they are cited for. Earwig reveals no copyvio, and I didn't spot any instances of unacceptably WP:Close paraphrasing. There are no obvious neutrality issues. The hook is interesting and properly sourced (the cited source attributes this to Peter Rockwell, but Halpern similarly states that The catalog title Triple Self-Portrait actually understates the case, if one adds the sheet of multiple rough sketches tacked to the upper left of the canvas and the series of small reproductions of self-portraits by Dürer, Rembrandt, Picasso, and Van Gogh tacked to the upper right., so I don't think WP:INTEXT attribution is necessary). QPQ has not been done. Some comments about the content:

  • I would suggest adding {{Infobox artwork}}. This would, I think, render {{Italic title}} redundant.
  • created for the cover of the February 13, 1960, edition of The Saturday Evening Post. – unsourced in the WP:LEAD and not mentioned in the body at all.
  • According to Michele Bogart the painting shows that Rockwell saw himself as split between an artist and an illustrator. – I'm not sure I get this from the source?
  • According to Deborah Solomon, by not painting his eyes in the reflection Rockwell shows that he rejects "the popular myth of artists as heroic seers" – well yes, but this misses Solomon's point that if his eyes can't be seen through his spectacles in the mirror reflection, the non-reflected Rockwell should also be unable to see out through the opaque lenses. It's not that the eyes aren't seen in the reflection per se, it's that his eyes are obscured by eyeglasses that obstruct rather than aid vision.
  • depicting the way American Realism is divorced from the reality found in a mirrorrealism, sure, but American Realism?

Ping Guerillero. TompaDompa (talk) 22:27, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I will try to work on this over the weekend when I have more time --In actu (Guerillero) Parlez Moi 14:15, 26 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]