Talk:Trikomo, Cyprus

Page protection

I have no idea what's happening here or why, but the article history is a complete sockfest. This needs to stop, so I have protected The Wrong Version^TM for a week. ➨ ❝ЯEDVERS❞ a sweet and tender hooligan 15:22, 25 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, Redvers! That was probably the fastest catch of the sock yet...great job. As to the question of "why", it's political POV pushing by a rather persistent puppeteer, and it's not just this article. I'd debated protecting one or more, but hadn't taken that step yet. AKRadecki^Speaketh 20:44, 25 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

If you can point me to articles with a similar level of obvious socking going on, I'll protect those as well. Let me know. Might be worth seeking a checkuser code A to be rid of this troublesome sockmaster. ➨ ❝ЯEDVERS❞ a sweet and tender hooligan 23:25, 25 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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On Google Books, 642 hits for İskele (including Yeni İskele) and 1970 hits for Trikomo. Whilst there appears to have been a shift in the recent years to İskele, Trikomo still remains by far the most common name in reliable sources and the article must remain named "Trikomo". --GGT (talk) 12:51, 28 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Usage of geographical reference in the geographical description

In Wikipedia, there was a discussion once upon a time on whether Cyprus must be used for island (Ireland send to island) or country (Cyprus sends to country). This discussion ended up with "Cyprus to be used for country". This resulted in every geographical description in Cyprus island to be send to the country (Republic of Cyprus) instead of the Cyprus island itself. I propose the following change:
From:
Trikomo (Greek: Τρίκωμο; Turkish: Yeni İskele) is a town in North-Eastern Mesaoria in Cyprus.
To:
Trikomo (Greek: Τρίκωμο; Turkish: Yeni İskele) is a town in North-Eastern Mesaoria in Cyprus.

Although this does not change the content during reading (since they both appear as "Cyprus"), the correct reference is made.
Let me take pro and con opinions with reasonings88.227.219.0 (talk) 19:31, 4 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The legitimacy of the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus (TRNC) is recognized worldwide (International court rulings and national court decisions of various countries)

The International Court of Justice (ICJ) Ruling on Kosovo (2010):

"THERE IS NOTHING IN INTERNATIONAL LAW THAT PROHIBITS DECLARATIONS OF INDEPENDENCE, and the RECOGNITION OF A STATE IS A POLITICAL MATTER."

The United States of America (USA), in the ICJ’s 2010 Kosovo ruling, rejected the Greek Cypriot stance and issued a statement favorable to the Turkish Cypriots:

Harold Hongju Koh (The USA's representative in the UN-ICJ 2010 Kosovo case on behalf of the USA): "The argument advanced by Cyprus against the legality of Kosovo’s unilateral declaration of independence is incorrect. Cyprus attempted to compare the 1244 process to the 'heartbreaking but misleading situation' of a parent sending their young child into state care, never to see them again. I argued, however, that a more accurate analogy would be the futile attempt by the state to forcibly return an adult child to an abusive home when the child no longer wishes to return, especially after the parent and child have LONG LIVED APART, and REPEATED ATTEMPTS AT RECONCILIATION HAVE REPEATEDLY FAILED. In such a case, as here, a DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE WOULD BE THE ONLY VALID OPTION and would undoubtedly be lawful.”
https://www.icj-cij.org/public/files/case-related/141/141-20091208-ORA-01-00-BI.pdf (Page38; Paragraph40)

Accordingly, the US Federal Court (on 9 October 2014) declared the TRNC as a "democratic republic with a president, a prime minister, a legislative body, and a judiciary."

In the UN-ICJ 2010 Kosovo ruling, ICJ Judge Trindade: "The emphasis has shifted from the status of the TERRITORIES to the NEEDS AND DESIRES OF THE PEOPLE."
https://www.icj-cij.org/sites/default/files/case-related/141/141-20100722-ADV-01-08-EN.pdf (Page550; Paragraph66)

The European Court of Human Rights (ECHR; 2 July 2013):

"Although the regime in the northern area lacks international recognition, THE DE FACTO RECOGNITION OF THE REGIME’S ACTIONS IN THE NORTH MAY BE NECESSARY FOR PRACTICAL PURPOSES. Therefore, the adoption of civil, administrative, or criminal legal measures by the authorities of the 'TRNC', and their application or enforcement within the territory of the regime in the north, may be seen as having a LEGAL BASIS IN DOMESTIC LAW for the purposes of the European Convention on Human Rights (ECHR)."
http://hudoc.echr.coe.int/eng?i=001-122907

The United States Federal Court (9 October 2014):

"...Although the US does not recognize the TRNC as a state, it can be said that the TRNC purportedly operates as a DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC with a president, prime minister, legislature and judiciary...The TRNC is NOT vulnerable to a lawsuit in Washington."
https://docs.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/district-of-columbia/dcdce/1:2009cv01967/139002/53

The European Court of Human Rights (ECHR; 2 September 2015):

"The judicial system in the 'TRNC', including both civil and criminal courts, reflects the judicial and customary law tradition of Cyprus in its operation and procedures, and therefore, the courts of the 'TRNC' should be regarded as 'established by law' in reference to their 'constitutional and legal foundation. The ECHR had previously ruled that the judicial system established in the 'TRNC' should be considered 'established by law' based on the 'constitutional and legal foundation' that sustains it. Moreover, the ECHR does NOT accept that the courts in the 'TRNC', as a whole, lack independence and/or impartiality. When an action by the authorities of the 'TRNC' complies with the EXISTING LAWS OF NORTHERN CYPRUS, such actions, in principle, have a legal basis in domestic law for the purposes of the European Convention on Human Rights.
http://hudoc.echr.coe.int/eng?i=001-155000

PS: Here, the ECtHR, by referring to the "laws in force in the northern region of Cyprus", means the laws enacted and enforced by the TRNC in northern Cyprus (see the ECtHR’s 02July2013 ruling). In summary, according to the ECtHR, the courts of the TRNC are INDEPENDENT AND IMPARTIAL.

United Kingdom High Court (3 February 2017):

"There was NO duty in UK law upon the Government to refrain from recognising Northern Cyprus. The United Nations itself works with Northern Cyprus law enforcement agencies and facilitates co-operation between the two parts of the island...The cooperation between the UK police and legal institutions in Northern Cyprus is LAWFUL."
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/02/03/criminals-fleeing-british-justice-can-no-longer-use-cyprus-safe
http://ambamarblearch-media.com/sites/default/files/dpp_files/TT.pdf, Page6.212.174.38.177 (talk) 11:37, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]