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Requested move

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The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the proposal was no consensus. --BDD (talk) 22:38, 2 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Tree diagramTree diagram (disambiguation) – There are a large number of incoming links to the disambiguation page Tree diagram. It appears that most of them intend to link to Tree structure. Therefore, I think it would be best to move the dab page, make Tree diagram redirect to Tree structure, and add that as the main use at the dab page. Relisted. BDD (talk) 17:38, 19 November 2013 (UTC) Cnilep (talk) 03:13, 7 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oppose. I cannot validate "most incoming links to the disambiguation page mean this" as being a reason to move a page. Just because most links to a specific disambiguation page that exist on Wikipedia refer to one specific subject neither means that is the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC, nor does it mean that all of the links represent one topic. If disambiguation is a concern, there are other methods to correct them, such as dab solver. Also, per the the list of the top 1000 disambiguation pages with links, there are currently only 15 links to Tree diagram; those could be processed rather quickly. Steel1943 (talk) 05:37, 7 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    • Steel1943 is correct to note that the existence of incoming links alone is not a reason to make something a primary topic. On the other hand, the fact (which can be verified by looking at the incoming links from article space) that most references to "tree diagrams" – almost by definition – intend some type of tree structure does make tree structure the primary usage, in my opinion at least. Cnilep (talk) 06:36, 7 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Cnilep, I'll give this comparison to you. I was doing a brief skim through the articles that have links to Tree structure, and on the skim alone, I am seeing more than 100 non-userspace and non-talkspace links to it. In addition, I took a sample of a few of them, and from the sample I took, about half of them had piping links to Tree structure, but none of the piped links appeared as Tree diagram. From this, I would have to say that it seems like at this point there is a clear difference between Tree structure and all of the other articles listed on the Tree diagram disambiguation page. Steel1943 (talk) 06:50, 7 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment I would prefer that this disambig page would be rewritten into a general article about the topic "Tree diagram", similar to the article on the German Wikipedia. It seems parts of the tree structure diagram could the be moved here. -- Mdd (talk) 20:29, 11 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose - tree diagram has some very specific meanings, for example in probability theory. And furthermore, a "tree structure" isn't really a type of tree diagram, meaning such a redirect would be inaccurate. A tree diagram is a representation of the a tree structure. For me, the disambiguation page serves readers best.  — Amakuru (talk) 13:53, 15 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support - more because tree structure is a broad concept article than it is a WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. All the other articles linked from the DAB page are instances and usages of tree structures, including the tree diagram in probability. Therefore, it makes sense to drive readers to the description of the basic concept of a branching diagram, instead of having it buried in the fourth section. All those links in the DAB could be merged into tree structure instead of having a separate disambiguation with only a subset of the links (articles like Tree (data structure) or Tree (graph theory) are missing). An equivalent situation is the Particle article, where the DAB page is primarily for articles unrelated to the concept in physics. Diego (talk) 22:24, 17 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support, but note that, per WP:MOSDAB, all titles on the page that do not contain the term, "Tree diagram", in the title will need to be removed, as they are not page matches, and are therefore not ambiguous to the title. Disambiguation pages are a navigational device to distinguish unrelated concepts that happen to have identical titles; they are not a place to clump together related concepts with different names out of laziness about writing an actual article on their relationships. bd2412 T 04:37, 18 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.