Talk:Treaty of Guînes

Treaty of Guînes is a featured article; it (or a previous version of it) has been identified as one of the best articles produced by the Wikipedia community. Even so, if you can update or improve it, please do so.

This article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page as Today's featured article on April 6, 2022.

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Date	Process	Result
May 28, 2021	Good article nominee	Listed
July 9, 2021	Featured article candidate	Promoted

A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on February 3, 2021.

The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that the English and French agreed to a draft treaty in 1354 to end what was to become the Hundred Years' War, but the French reneged and the war continued for a further 101 years?

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Gog the Mild, as I read the article, I find it difficult to place areas concerned on a map in my mind. I was looking for a map similar to File:Map- France at the Treaty of Bretigny.jpg, but could not find any. Do you know of any that could be used to depict location of the areas gained/lost under the treaty? Could the Bretigny map be used?

Otherwise nice work - maybe a couple of images could be added to break up the wall of text.--Tomobe03 (talk) 11:02, 29 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Tomobe03, this is spooky. I am part way through putting a map together. Should be another five minutes or so. Gog the Mild (talk) 11:03, 29 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Tomobe03 and many thanks for taking a look at this. As soon as I saw the cross against supporting materials I realised that I had goofed. A couple of maps and a couple of other relevant images added. Sadly not only does Wikipedia not have a map of how the treaty would have reshaped France, neither does any source I have found. Not even ones with a lengthy chapter on it. So I have used a Bretigny one - several sources say it was very similar and at this scale one could hardly distinguish the differences. See what you think. Gog the Mild (talk) 11:43, 29 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Seems fine as a reference point. The prose indicates "Aquitaine, Poitou, Maine, Anjou, Touraine, and Limousin" are affected, and while the Bretigny map does not include in English possessions Touraine, Anjou and Maine, it clearly depicts and marks them. Exact borders are likely a bit different, but borders were rarely exact in the period anyway.--Tomobe03 (talk) 11:48, 29 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

A lot of the details were supposed to be thrashed out at Avignon, which of course never happened. This additional lack of certainty may be an additional reason why modern sources hesitate to offer a map. Gog the Mild (talk) 12:00, 29 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, that's likely so. Still, this map offers readers idea where are those regions in relation to each other making the article easier to comprehend for people not that familiar with regions of France in the period.--Tomobe03 (talk) 12:04, 29 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Tomobe03, after further work I have nominated the article for GA. As you are already familiar with it, it occurred to me that you may be willing to assess it. Gog the Mild (talk) 22:57, 15 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi! Sorry, I was not editing for a few days, and I missed this. I see the GAR is in good hands now, but I hope to chip in when the article moves on to ACR. Regards--Tomobe03 (talk) 10:08, 19 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]