Talk:Tranquility Base Hotel & Casino/GA1

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Reviewer: MrLinkinPark333 (talk · contribs) 00:02, 6 September 2018 (UTC)

Hi there. I'll be reviewing this article. Please note that the article was nommed in July 2018 and only reviewed now. The article has also been edited since the nomination. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 00:02, 6 September 2018 (UTC)

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)
It is reasonably well written. a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists): It is factually accurate and verifiable. a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism): It is broad in its coverage. a (major aspects): b (focused): It follows the neutral point of view policy. Fair representation without bias: It is stable. No edit wars, etc.: It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate. a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
Overall: Pass/Fail:
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Lead

“Despite its stylistic deviation polarising listeners...fastest-selling vinyl record in 25 years”. - Seems like a comma splice. I think creating another sentence after "2018 Mercury Prize for best album" would flow better.Y

• “features a lush sound” - reword "lush" as it's the opinion of Rolling Stone only in compositionY
  • "expansive sound" - expansive is used by AllMusic. Maybe more general per MOS:LEADCITE?Y
• “notably less accessible than its internationally successful predecessor, AM (2013).” - reword "accessible" as only Spin mentions it in the reception section. Also, Spin doesn't compare accessibility of Tranquility to AM. Lastly, "Notably" sounds peacocky so I'd suggest removing it per Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Words to watch#Puffery.
  • Notably removed Y but the "accessible" part is still in the lead. Perhaps I'm misunderstanding the word accessible for this part. I just saw that accessible rock of AM is mentioned in the article for Observer reception, but from what I'm reading by Kitty Empire, she doesn't specifically say accessible. Could you provide me with some clarification?

    I think 'accessible' is a good broad word which encompasses what a lot of reviewers are saying about the work being a "left turn", "strange", "intriguing and completely different", "strangest and most alluring" and dividing listeners. If you disagree we could remove that. Jimmio78 (talk) 22:41, 11 September 2018 (UTC)

    • Okay. Accessible to me sounded more like being able to obtain a copy. But less accessible as is not understandable would work then.Y

Background

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1st para - "The band's fifth studio album AM was released on 9 September 2013 to critical acclaim, bringing the group new levels of commercial success globally." - Pitchfork #1 confirms the date of release, but not the acclaim/success. Y For the rest of the sentences, I think this part is going off topic. The paragraph talks about Turner's side project and producing while also mentioning Helder's side project and marriage. I think the only part that would be useful is The Last Shadow Puppets as it is mentioned in the 2nd para. Y I know what you're saying about going off-topic, but as far as I understand the style guide suggests answering "what did the artist do between this album and the last?". I've tried to cut it down a little bit. Also found a good source for AM as the group's international breakthrough. Jimmio78 (talk) 00:44, 6 September 2018 (UTC) The paragraph looks better. On a second look, the co-producing is relevant too as Turner produced the album with Ford who he worked with before. The Guardian reference is also suitable. Y --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 16:55, 6 September 2018 (UTC) I just realized that ref #2 does not state Ford co-produced with Turner on Tranquility or on Savior's album. It only states Turner worked on both albums. Also, the previous edits have now made parts of the sentence unconfirmed: Guardian #1 doesnt say the specific date when AM was released, only Pitchfork #2. However, Pitchfork #2 doesnt does say AM was their 5th studio album. Partially Y. The only thing left is a ref that says Ford worked with Turner on Tranquility. The specific date and Ford working with Savior are confirmed. (I need to look at the album liner notes)Y 2nd para - "Following the international success of AM...as it has on this record" - Perry's 2018 NME supports all of the claims. Smith's 2018 NME review only mentions the songs was written on a piano, not as a birthday gift. Similarly, uncut mentions the piano was a birthday gift but not who gave it and how old Turner was turning. Therefore I don't think refs 4 and 5 in this part are needed as ref 3 supports all of the claims. If you want to add/reuse other sources to break up the paragraph, feel free to.Y " Many of the vocal takes included on the finished album remain from Turner's home demos on a Tascam 388 8-track recording machine." - "remain" sounds off to me. Perhaps "are from" or "originate"?Y " Guitarist Jamie Cook commented that he "was blown away by the direction Alex had gone in" when Turner played the band the demos in February 2017"' - I think Turner specifically played it for Cook, not the entire band as the Weiner Rolling Source source says him only.Y "Initially unsure how they would record the songs, Cook suggested Turner release it as a solo album, but Turner was uninterested." - True, but the Trendell source is referencing a different NME article by Trendell on April 23th that specifically states Turner had no plans to release his demos sololly.Y bassist Nick O'Malley approving of the new direction upon hearing a demo of "Star Treatment" - Trendell May 2018 doesn't specifically say Malley liked the "new direction" of Star Treatment, it only says he liked the demo.Y 3rd para: "In September 2017 the Arctic Monkeys began recording material at Vox Studios in Hollywood and La Frette in Paris, with long-time collaborator James Ford co-producing the album with Turner." - Couple problems: In Pitchfork, Vox Studios and La Frette are not specifically named, only the cities Los Angeles and Paris. Also "long-time collaborator James Ford" is word for word same except for the hyphen. Ford collaborator rephrased Y but I need to confirm Hollywood's Vox Studios and Paris's La Frette with the liner notesY "the piano and guitar started to "jell" - word for word copy with only jell in quotations in the wiki article.Y while this has been now quoted, it might be better as a paraphrase as this is quoting Weiner, and not the Arctic MonkeysY "The musicians all played together in the same room, inspired by the sessions for the Beach Boys' Pet Sounds (1966) and Phil Spector's Wall of Sound production method." = "all played together in the same room" word for word copy and close paraphrasing rest of sentence.Y "Avery and Parkford both joined the band as touring members following the album's release." - needs a citation.Y "The group employed a wider array of guest musicians than on previous albums" - I would need to verify this with the liner notes (which I do not have access to at the moment).Y Sound a bit like OR with "than on previous albums". I'm not 100% sure if the album liner notes does confirm it.Y

Composition

• Musical style 1st para:
  • "a departure from the band's previous guitar riff-driven work" - maybe specify AM was the guitar heavy work as Rolling Stone doesn't name the other albums.Y
  • " It has been characterized as lounge pop, space pop...film soundtracks of the 1960s." - comma splice. Maybe divide the genres and influences separately.Y
  • "from jazz, as well as soul, French pop of the early 1970s, synthesizer-driven prog" - closely paraphrases sterogum in the exact same order of genres. Summary would be needed. Rolling Stone only mentions jazz and none of the other genres.Y
  • "subtle funk" word for word in the observerY
  • "melodically rich" closely paraphrases guardian
    • "melodic and lavish songs" closely paraphrases guardian as "lavish" is used

      I don't think there's really any other word for "lavish" in this context, except "lush" which is already quoted from another source in the previous sentence. Jimmio78 (talk) 10:56, 18 September 2018 (UTC)

      • In that case, if lavish/lush have the same meaning, perhaps lavish doesn't need to be repeated as the previous sentence says lush.Y

  • "tendency to resist "casual consumption"" - "resists" in used in the pitchfork ref #20 source. Different word maybe? Y
  • "vintage electric keyboards and synthesisers reminiscent of space age pop" - same order as pitchfork #20

    Order is different now. Jimmio78 (talk) 10:56, 18 September 2018 (UTC)Y

• musical style 2nd para:
  • "The album has been compared to the works of David Bowie,...Beach Boys" - some of these in my opinion have too many citations citing the same comparisons. I suggest using the main ones that compares the entire album to specific singers. I think specific song comparisons would fit in the songs sections, not in the album overview. Also, if Turner is specifically mentioning these influences, then I don't believe the album is being "compared" to them. I can give specific examples if needed.

    I looked through all the citations and it seems like – with the exception of one Bowie reference – these all compare the entire album to the artists mentioned. Also the way the paragraph is structured first shows all the artists that critics have compared the album to, followed separately by Turner's specifically mentioned influences (many of whom have been compared to the album independently of what Turner has said) Jimmio78 (talk) 01:56, 11 September 2018 (UTC)Y

  • "rhythm tracks and bass lines" - closely paraphrases guardian (unless there is a limited amount of ways to say rhythm tracks?)Y
• Lyrics 1st para:
  • "hyperrealist satire" needs quotations and ref while "interstellar escapism" needs the same refY
  • "the desire to escape into it, and the desire to create it" - needs a ref as it's a quoteY
  • "This is influenced by current politics in the United States" - needs a ref as the following Pitchfork ref doesn't mention politics. Also I think the sentence needs to be divided into two sentences as it talks about the lyric influences and then switches to the narrators.Y
  • "Turner embodies as narrators frequently becoming distracted" - Should this sentence be rephrased to "Turner embodies as his narrators frequently become distracted"?Y
  • "These multiple narrators are unreliable" - Pitchfork specifically used "unreliable" to describe the narrators. But I'd suggest reword instead of quoting because of the following quote beside it.

    I think "unreliable narrator" is the only real way to say this; its a common literary term with no real synonyms. Jimmio78 (talk) 04:04, 14 September 2018 (UTC)

    • Okay since it's a common term, it works for me.Y
  • "multiple vocal tones to embody the different characters, with his wide vocal range" - embody is used in Exclaim, and Exclaim doesnt mention a "wide" vocal range as it mentions only deep/falsetto.Y
  • "The album's lyrical voice" - should it be Turner's lyrical voice as Pitchfork said? Minor suggestionY
  • "has been compared to Argentine short-story writer Jorge Luis Borges" - not sure if it is this Borges as Pitchfork only mentions the surname, not the full name.

    There's really nobody else the reference could be talking about. He is commonly known by simply his surname (much like Salinger, Hemmingway, etc.) Jimmio78 (talk) 04:04, 14 September 2018 (UTC)

    • Upon checking, I agree with you about Borges.Y
  • "The dense and self-aware lyrics have been described as "endlessly quotable" - bit OR as NME says dense/self-aware while Uncut has the "endlessly quotable" part. Might need one source to support both claims to not suggest both articles support both claims.Y
  • "rambling, stream-of-consciousness style" word for word of The Independent.Y
  • " modern human condition" close paraphrase PitchforkY
    • "human condition in modern society" close paraphrase. Limited wording?

      I think "human condition" is the only real way to say it. "Condition" is now the only word shared with the source, and I don't think there's any other way to say that. Jimmio78 (talk) 10:56, 18 September 2018 (UTC)Y

• Lyrics 2nd para:
  • I don't think you need to mention "blunt" twice as it's in the quote of the last sentence. Minor suggestionY
• Songs 1st para:
  • Star Treatment - a) reference to early work maybe, but I think only The Strokes influenced Turner, not the entire band.Y b) fictional band named martini police, yes but the NME reference doesn't state band. A switch of reference is neededY c) acquaintance never seeing blade runner - the other NME ref doesn't say acquaintance but supports the real life reference and quotes.Y d) "scattered drums and wood block accents" would need rewording as it's word for word matching and I'm not seeing "baritone guitars" mentioned. Also themusic.com.au ref isn't working, but an archived copy exists.Y
• Songs 2nd para:
  • One Point Perspective - a) sweet, plucky, and Empire State of Mind needs reference as only Still Dre is referenced by Observer.Y b) i don't think 4 references are needed for "lavish strings" (needs quote as cited by NME) or hip hop beat.Y c) Turner says "may have heard or been involved" with narcotics. So I'm not sure if Turner is misremembering or not fully saying he was using narcotics. Any opinions?

    I'm not 100% sure about this one. I think Turner was intentionally quite vague with his wording, making it a bit unclear whether HE was under the influence of narcotics or whether the conversationalists he was observing were. The way I've worded it right now keeps both potential meanings. Maybe we could add the "may have" as a quote? E.g. "The song was inspired by conversations Turner "may have" witnessed and experienced whilst under the influence of narcotics" Jimmio78 (talk) 21:18, 18 September 2018 (UTC)

    • I don't think "may have" would be appropriate in quotation marks as it would not sound neutral. But at the same time, Turner isn't confirming whether or not he did use narcotics at the time. Also, I just reread Turner's sentence in Radio X and he said "perhaps by conversations" so the conversations part of the sentence, from my reading, is in doubt as well. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 00:52, 20 September 2018 (UTC)

      I've changed it to "Turner has alluded that the song was inspired by conversations he witnessed and experienced whilst under the influence of narcotics". I think this accounts for the vagueness and uncertainty of his expression. Jimmio78 (talk) 04:03, 20 September 2018 (UTC)Y

      • I think "alluded" sounds okay. The main issue with the uncertainty was addressed. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 00:55, 21 September 2018 (UTC)

  • d) reword "simple hip-hopbeat" as it's word for word from UncutY e) "piano figure" is word for word SPINY
• Songs 3rd para:
  • American Sports - a) "spooky, heavily affected keyboards" not supported by the Pitchfork refY
    • "Spooky" supported by The Music, but not "heavily affected keyboards"

      "Heavily affected" is a rewording of "effects-laden" from the source. Jimmio78 (talk) 10:56, 18 September 2018 (UTC)

      • I see. I don't think heavily affected is the same as effects laden though as affects/effects are two different words. From my understanding effects laden is a heavy usage of special effects. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 00:38, 20 September 2018 (UTC)

        Affected can also be used as an adjective for something with a heavy usage of special effects as far as I understand. Jimmio78 (talk) 04:01, 20 September 2018 (UTC)

        Ahh okay. That makes sense since google tells me affected is a description of something being impacted. Doesn't help they are similar spelling words.Y --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 00:40, 21 September 2018 (UTC)

  • Self titled track - a) "mocks the sterility of contemporary society" closely paraphrases pitchfork in the same phrasing order. Pitchfork quote says "sterility of our modern world" so it's still closely paraphrasing with the word sterility and word order. Summary needed.Y b) maybe reword "drum patterns" unless there's a limited amount of ways to say it.Y c) I require to check that Ford co-produced this track with the liner notesY
  • Golden Trunks - a) Turner doesn't specifiy the conversation in the song was "blunt"Y b) "has caused attention, with many believing"Y - The claim is only supported by SPIN magazine, so it's not many people believing. Also SPIN only vaguely says "You Know Who" and not mentions who exactly, so naming Donald Trump isn't exactly supported. Sounds to me like Weasel words which isn't neutral, nor is "the line caused attention" neutral.Y
• Songs 4th para:
  • Four out of Five - a) yes the song is compared to the two albums, but as somewhere in the middle between them, not akin.Y b) "elide[d] with the memory" minor grammar issue as Kitty Empire mentions both Do I Wanna Know? and Satellite of Love.Y c) "phonetically it's quite alluring" needs a ref as it's a quoteY d) I'd recommend rephrasing "vocal phrasing" as it's word for word from The MusicY e) a citation for the 2001: Space Odyssey references in needed (specifically has a citation needed tag)Y
• Songs 5th para:
  • Monster truck - a) "heavy use of reverb and minimal bass guitar and percussion" closely paraphrases Exclaim! as it's in the same order and phrasing Y b) "real news story" is word for word Radio X. "real" doesn't sound neutral either.Y
    • Exclaim doesn't specifiy heavy/light for reverb. Rest of the sentence would be fine as there's limited words for guitar/percussionY
  • Science fiction - a) "confessed" doesn't sound neutral to me. Y
  • She looks like fun - a) Turner doesn't say he delved into the exploration of technology, just the "constant updating and refreshing" being the influence for the song, which is already cited.Y
  • Batphone - a) "sucked into a hole" line was indeed called comical and januty, but not the entire track.Y b) blowing a raspberry might have influenced Turner, but he says it doesn't have much to do with the track in Radio X.Y
• Songs 6th para:
  • ultracheese - a) "descending piano chords" word for word The Independent b) "live take" word for word Radio X. c) I'll have to check the album liner notes for Tom Rowley's performance and the instruments proved in this trackY

    I'm not sure that there are really any ways to reword either of these phrases. Do you have any suggestions? Jimmio78 (talk) 00:16, 13 September 2018 (UTC)

    • I thought it over. Descending piano chords I don't think rewording can be done as piano chords is a common phrase. However, how about "live version"? --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 00:41, 20 September 2018 (UTC)

      I don't think "live version" makes sense in this context, as there's no other version. I could just say "recorded live" but that sounds a bit misleading, as if it was a live performance with an audience. I think "live take" is the only common way to describe a single 'live' studio take. Jimmio78 (talk) 04:01, 20 September 2018 (UTC)

      • If "take" is the only word that can be used, then it'd be fine with me. Take does say from a "single recording session" in the Wikipedia article. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 00:55, 21 September 2018 (UTC)Y

Artwork and title

• "The album's artwork was designed by Alex Turner using cardboard cut-outs and a Revox A77 tape machine, itself containing early demos of the album" - original research as the April 2018 billboard reference does not specify it was an A77 (only that it was a Revox), nor that the tape machine had early demos.Y
  • In the Radio X interview, Turner says the tape in the tape machine was "the album on it, or an earlier version of it". Not sure if it was one or both.Y
• "a member of the art department for 2001: A Space Odyssey (1968) building the set for a Hilton Hotel on the moon." closely paraphrases the radiox reference. Y
• "Turner began imagining the lobby of the album's titular hotel, picturing a model of the hotel within its lobby." - I think this sentence's two halves could be merged together to say he imagined a model of the album's hotel in the lobby. The sentence seems repeating itself as it suggests he imagined the hotel's lobby and also imagined a model of the hotel in the lobby. Y

Release

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"stating that if a new album was not released in 2018 they've "got problems" - grammar issue since the album is already releasedY i think "would have had problems" for grammar as it's past tenseY "short video...snippets of "Four Out of Five" - The Youtube video itself does not confirm a sample of Four Out of Five was used in the trailer. This is OR per Wikipedia:Video links as I had to specifically play the video for Four Out of Five to confirm it. A secondary reference would be best. This is a tricky one because at the time the teaser was released no reliable sources knew which song was featured. Should we just change it to "snippets of new music from the album"? Jimmio78 (talk) 08:33, 8 September 2018 (UTC) I'm not 100% sure. I know it's a snippet of new music because I played the Four out of five music video. I'm not sure if others would based solely on the release video. I saw that you added a reference stating new music was including in the trailer. Resolved.Y "No singles were released before the album" - in a similar case above, the NME reference cites a different NME article by Luke Morgan Britton backing up the claim of no singles before the album release. There's also a pitchfork reference mentioned, so either or would work.Y "The Sydney pop-up venue also included a mini film festival curated by the band" - not confirmed by the Noah Yoo 2018 Pitchfork ref. ORY "On the night of the project's release..performing "Four Out of Five" - tiny bit inaccurate as the Pitchfork article was published on the 11th, and mentions the band "were musical guests on the latest episode". Therefore it'd have to be the 10th. Up to you if you want to switch or adjust the source. Y "Two days later...directed by Ben Chappell and Aaron Brown" - would need to be adjusted to three days per above, and the tweet does not specify who directed the music video.Y Also just realized that since it was the 13th for Corden, the date should be mentioned because it's a different week than Fallon (10th).Y It was May 14th, not June 14th for Corden.Y "losing his grip of reality as he walks through a stately home reminiscent of The Shining and an underground train station evocative of the dystopia of A Clockwork Orange" - closely paraphrasing with "losing his grip of reality" and "stately home". Also, only NME compared it to Kubrick, and I think it should be past tense.Y "The single debuted at number 18 on the UK Singles Chart. The next week, the group performed "She Looks Like Fun" on The Late Late Show with James Corden." - order needs to be flipped as they performed on Corden on the 14th and "Four out of Five" charted on the 18th (making it the same week). I don't know if this order should be flipped. I think it makes more sense to put its chart position immediately following info about the single and video being released, instead of making it strictly chronological. Jimmio78 (talk) 02:27, 14 September 2018 (UTC) Okay. As both sentences are supported, I think this should be left alone as it flows alright. Resolved. Y --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 00:25, 18 September 2018 (UTC) Maybe also add the date for the Corden show (14th) to specify since "that week" is vague.Y "On 6 June, they performed live at BBC's Maida Vale Studios....as well as earlier singles" - June 10th pitchwork doesn't specify they performed on the 6th, only the previous week. Also, the only other single mentioned they performed was “I Bet You Look Good On The Dancefloor”. While the youtube video does say they played seven songs, this is OR. I also can't watch the BBC special myself as I'm out of the UK.Y I see the date for the Maida Vale performance was removed. I think Maida and Corden would need to switched order since Maida was before Corden. Also, based on the added Pitchfork source, I wouldn't say "primarily" from Tranquility as 4 are from the album while the other six are not.Y "On 23 July, the group released a music video for the album's titular track, "Tranquility Base Hotel & Casino", ..." - NME doesnt say "directed by Brown and Chappel" only the Youtube video does. "surreal Kubrick-inspired science fiction aesthetic" is close paraphrasing. " walking through several levels of a hotel" also is close paraphrasing of the adjacent Pitchfork ref but I'm more concerened about the NME one.Y The Pitchfork reference includes the directors. Jimmio78 (talk) 08:33, 8 September 2018 (UTC)Y I saw the source added so that part is good. The surreal aesthetic and levels of the hotel are still closely paraphrased.Y Just spotted now "The stylised video is again inspired by Kubrick". "again" sounds a bit like WP:EDITORIALIZING so I'd recommend removing it.Y "The next day, the band performed "The Ultracheese"...long-haired look he had previously adopted in promotion of the album" - NME Jones article was written on July 24th and said "last night" making it July 23rd. I'm not sure if mentioning Turner's haircut is going off topic. I wondered the same thing when I added that. I think the haircut is being treated as an important aesthetic feature relating directly to the album. The widespread media coverage around the haircut's role in the performance supports this. Jimmio78 (talk) 09:21, 8 September 2018 (UTC) @Jimmio78: I thought it over, and I think if a source was added that talked about his previous long hair he had during Tranquility, I think that would work. The Colbert source only talks about his haircut, and doesn't say about his prior haircut. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 00:25, 18 September 2018 (UTC) I haven't heard of Fashion Beans before, so I checked the website. The author Jessica Punter was an editor for the UK version of GQ and the other editors seem reliable too based on their contributions.Y Tour para 1: "In January 2018, the band announced an extensive tour of North America and Europe to begin in May" - Pitchfork Jan 2018 says the tour would start in June, not May. Also, from the brief source it doesn't suggest "extensive" to me. Y "The tour consists of 32 shows in North America and 41 in Europe...Arctic Monkeys' first performance in four years." - couple issues. Noah Yoo Pitchfork doesn't go into detail the number of shows in North America, Europe or the Voodoo show, nor does it say when the Arctic Monkeys performed live. However, the source does confirm the 4 debut songs on tour. A source would be needed before and after the 4 debut songs.Y The four years part is resolved but the 32 and 41 shows is not fully supported by the arctic monkeys tour page as the link points to /live/ but I would need to individually count the number of shows in the tours /live/2018/ page making it OR. If there was a general source that states how many shows per continent, that would work better in my opinionY I see the number of shows have been removed, but the sentences is now redundant as it mentions "North America and Europe" twice.Y para 2, various issues with this paragraph in this May 14th NME source: Parkford isn't specifically named as an album contributor (only Avery). On the other hand, Avery is not mentioned as an opening act or leaving the tour. Album liner notes was added, so I require to check a physical copy of the album. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 00:25, 18 September 2018 (UTC) "Sophisticated" is indeed mentioned, but only in the paragraph talking about the addition of Parkford and Avery. So I don't think the tour itself is being named sophisticated. Instead, having more people on tour makes it sophisticated. Minor point for this part. The article does also say quite broadly "their set is more sophisticated now" in the header of a paragraph, which then outlines various ways in which the band achieve this. Jimmio78 (talk) 08:54, 8 September 2018 (UTC) I reread that part over and I think you're right. Daly specifically said the setlist was more sophisicated, which was stated in the article "the new shows being described as "sophisticated".Y Turner is said to be more "playful" on the stage, but doesn't specifically name AM. Daly says "far more playful than he’s ever been on stage"Y There is a big decrease of guitar on the tour, but it doesn't contribute to Turner moving around more on stage. The only movement I'm seeing is with "Pretty Visitors" but that's only one song in a full setlist. In my opinion, "At the band’s New York show last week (May 9), he put down his guitar for eight songs, only three of which he sat behind a piano for, and made the most of it", followed by a specific example of his increased movement seems to indicate that his movement has increased for the majority of the setlist. Jimmio78 (talk) 08:54, 8 September 2018 (UTC) I see you removed the moving around part of the sentence. This one I had difficulty deciding, but your removal has now resolved it.Y

Reception

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"Tranquility Base Hotel & Casino has received generally positive reviews from music critics, despite polarising listeners" - NME only mentions their own positive review. If the NME reference is to serve as an introductory source to the other reviews, I think a different source would be needed to back up a summary of multiple music critics giving positive reviews.Y With "polarized" I would suggest quoting it, but google search brings up other reviews that use polarizing/polarized as well. I think there are too many quotations in the music reviews, specifically in the NME, The Guardian, The Observer, AllMusic, and Rolling Stone citations. I think summarizing would help reduce the amount of quotations for each of these reviews. The other reviews have one or two quotations each which works well for me. "He promised that it would "reward deep-diving listeners"" - "promised" doesn't seem neutral.Y NME "divise" is used directly in the article without a quote and "a disappointment or a step forward for the band" is closely paraphrases. I think this needs a summary.Y "agreed that the project benefitted from multiple listens," - think this is not correct as Exclaim! said to listen to the album a couple of times before dismissing it.Y "A review in Uncut" - Since the other authors are mentioned, the Uncut author should be too.Y ""a smart guy is sometimes all Turner seems to be" - the quote talks about the album, then Turner, then back to the album. Maybe remove the Turner part to flow together. Also Petridis said "evidence – albeit flawed – of a certain musical restlessness". My interpretation is that Petrdis does not have definitive proof that the album shows restlessness because he said "evidence - albeit flawed".Y "the expansive aural...upon close listening." - i believe this is closely paraphrasing as it follows the same order in the AllMusic review: aural, accomplished, lack of memorable, close listening. Summary would be best I think.Y I see the accomplished part was removed. However, lack of memorable songs and careless details follows the same sentence order. "close" and "lacking" are used by AllMusic as well. Reworded "close" and "lacking" and inverted the sentence order. Jimmio78 (talk) 10:46, 18 September 2018 (UTC)Y "despite the risk that the "atmospheric" album might be poorly-received, the "voyage into themed purgatory ... is worth it" - closely paraphrasing with risk, atmospheric, and the quote.Y " "obvious hooks" was its key flaw, resulting in it feeling "unmoored and even plodding"" - bit inaccurate as the unmoored part was due to a "lack of sctructure" according to A.V. Y "meandering" album's indulgence...sometimes restless artistry has a price" - close paraphrasing as indulgence is used in the Rolling Stone review without a quote. I'd recommend summary.Y "indulgent" isn't exactly quoted in the article. The closest is "bear the weight of the man at the piano’s indulgences" - indulgent might need to be removed.Y

Commercial performance

• "The album also debuted at number one in France, Australia, Scotland...top ten in Austria, the Czech Republic, Italy, Canada, Germany, Mexico, Finland, Sweden, Japan and Poland." Very long sentence with comma splice.Y
• "In addition, with 24,500 vinyl copies sold in the first week, the album became the UK's fastest selling vinyl record in 25 years." Almost right. Pitchfork said "the fastest-selling vinyl LP of the past 25 years" and the last album to hold that record was As You Were (Liam Gallagher album) (2017). "In 25 years" suggests to me the record hadn't been broken since 1993. I think it needs to be slightly reworded to avoid confusion. Optionally, maybe include the last record holder was Gallagher's 2017 album.Y
  • "previously held by Liam Gallagher’s As You Were" word for word. Also, I'm thinking if "of the past 25 years" would be outdated when it's no longer 2018.Y
    • "fastest selling vinyl record of the previous 25 years" closely paraphrases. But I think there's a limited amount of ways to say it. If there is no other way to phrase it, it'd be fine with me.

      I don't think there's any other way to say "fastest selling vinyl" but I changed "previous 25 years" to a specific year. Jimmio78 (talk) 10:45, 18 September 2018 (UTC)Y

References

Discogs ref #10 is not reliable per Wikipedia:WikiProject Albums/Sources#Unreliable sources. As this ref is citing the album itself, I'd recommend swapping to cite AV Media. Refs #25 and #43 are missing the website name Pitchfork in the citation. Rest of the references look good for reliability. However, ref #5 was a surprise to me as the reference had no indication of it being a twitter picture. Not sure about whether it's ok to link to a twitter image per WP:TWITTER. Thoughts?Y

A little confused as to what Twitter reference you're talking about. Ref #5 is not to Twitter. The article does contain two Twitter references in which the group's official account refers to releases specifically as "singles", but they aren't images. Jimmio78 (talk) 07:16, 7 September 2018 (UTC)

Apologies. I had ref #5 on my mind for another part of the review. Ref #18 is pbs.twimg.com which is twitter's image host. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 17:04, 7 September 2018 (UTC)Y

Captions

"David Bowie (left) and Serge Gainsbourg (right) were commonly cited as influencing the album's style." - the pictutres of Bowie and Gainsbourg are relevant but I think the wording needs to be adjusted. "were commonly cited as influencing" is two different tenses. Also, the cited of Bowie and Gainsbourg are suggested to be by the reviewers, not by the band. However, Turner doesn't cite Bowie as an influence specifically, but someone he admired. I'm not sure if Bowie should be swapped with Dion or de Roubaix as these two were specifically named as influences by Rolling Stone with their interview with Turner.

This was changed to "Several music critics cited David Bowie (left) and Serge Gainsbourg (right) as having influenced the album's style." Y

Overall

I still have to check the Composition section, but here's a partial overview of what needs/needed to be done to pass GA:

• 1a grammar and 1b word choice: a little bit of adjustments needed. I'll scan through it again fully to see if I missed any. Monster truck and science fiction have a few words that don't need neutral: "real" and "confessed" Y
• 2b: reliable sources - the discogs and twitter image were removed Y
• 2c: original research - primarily composition section reworkingY
• 2d: closely paraphrasing - composition section reworking as wellY
• 3b: focus - there is a lot of quotes in the Songs section especially with the quotation of lyrics. There may be too much detail for this part in my opinion.Y
• 4: neutrality - Donald Trump claim in Golden Trunks needs to be adjusted.Y

I need to personally check the album line notes myself for their respective claims (3 in background, 4 in composition and 1 in credits).Y Otherwise Lead and artwork is done, Reception is almost completed, Release/tour is close to being done, and composition needs work. Once I get a hold of the album liner notes, I'll be able to determine whether background is done or almost done. Also, there has been a major edit to the Songs section of Composition by another user, so I require to check that over. If I see any other issues, I'll update the respective sections of this review. On the other criteria, there is a reference list, sources are now all reliable per above, no edit wars, and major topics have been addressed. I think after the reception and release/tour parts issues are addressed, the only major part would be the Composition part (primarily the songs). After that, I would need to reread again to see if I missed anything. Update: all sections completed as of 30 october. Y

--MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 23:12, 12 September 2018 (UTC)

Thank you so much for your efforts on this review. I think I have addressed the majority of your comments. I can go through the songs section and see if I can cut down unnecessary information. As far as original research, paraphrasing and neutrality I think I have corrected each issue. There are a couple pieces of close paraphrasing which I have not changed because there is no other clear and logical way of expression. I have also gone through the composition songs section and cut down some superfluous quotes and points. Jimmio78 (talk) 09:24, 13 September 2018 (UTC)

Section check

Since this is a large review, I'm breaking down the sections into what is done and what's not:

• Lead Y
• Background - needs checking of liner notes by me. All other sources are good.Y
• Artwork Y
• Composition - needs album notes checking by me. A handful of statements in compositions, lyrics and songs sections needed addressing but were dealt with.Y
• Release/Tour - movement sentence of tour and haircut have been ticked off. Only parts left to check by me are ones that use album liner notes for referenceY
• Reception - AllMusic sentence Y
• Commerical Performance - fastest vinyl record sentence.Y
• Personnel - album liner notes only check by me required.Y
• Charts and certifications Y

--MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 00:48, 18 September 2018 (UTC)

All that is left to check as of Sept 20th are the album liners notes. Some of the statements are backed with the album such as the guest musicians and instruments used on the tracks. However, I do not have access to the album, but I'm looking to either get access from a local library or from the Resource Exchange. Apart from the liner notes, I believe everything else is good. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 01:06, 21 September 2018 (UTC)

I know this probably isn't reliable enough which is understandable, but it is quite easy to find online scans of the liner notes, if all else fails. Jimmio78 (talk) 01:21, 21 September 2018 (UTC)

Update

I apologize for the long wait. I only got access to the album liners notes this week from my local library. I'm going to check through the remaining parts that cite the liner notes and update the review accordingly. I've also seen the updates since September 21st to the article: "lounge lizards", additional James Corden performance, and Warp speed Chic. All of the new updates look good. I've a few comments for two minor parts of Warp Speed Chic and found another minor spot:

• 1) Stereogum says the documentary was 11 minutes, not 12. The youtube video is at 11:53 so it's not technically 12 minutes. Minor part.Y
• 2) "intercut with footage of the French wing of their subsequent tour" - i didn't understand what you meant by "wing" but Google tells me it's a synonym for part. It works in this case unless you meant leg?.Y
• 3) found a few URL errors with Danish Charts and French Charts. The peak positions are confirmed at the proper links. Y

Otherwise, I'll be looking at the liner notes today and updating the review with this section. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 18:28, 29 October 2018 (UTC)

@Jimmio78: Okay. I've looked through the liner notes. Most of them are good but there are some issues, mostly minor and a few major.

1) Background:

• "Ford and guitarist Tom Rowley...backing vocals to "She Looks Like Fun"." - run on sentence. Y
• Also the liner notes does not state Rowley has been a touring member since 2013 so a ref would be needed to support it.Y

2) Musical style:

• Dolceola should be singular as Turner was the only one who used this instrument throughout the album.Y

3) Songs (specifically Ultracheese)

• "acoustic baritone guitar solo performed by Tom Rowley." - should be separate as the liner notes says "Acoustic and baritone guitar solo" so i think that means two guitars, not one.Y
• "The track was recorded in a live take with a large ensemble, including electric, baritone... two pianos" - All instruments confirmed except the electric guitar. Liner notes says Jamie Cook played guitar but not specifically which type of guitar he played.Y

After these 3 parts for the liner and the above 3 comments for Warp speed chic/charts, I believe all parts of the article would be confirmed. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 22:57, 30 October 2018 (UTC)

@MrLinkinPark333: I think I've addressed all these issues. Let me know if it's all good. Jimmio78 (talk) 00:16, 31 October 2018 (UTC)

@Jimmio78: All checked. I think everything is good, I just need a final read-through for grammar/spelling since it's been awhile since I've reviewed the entire article. I'll let you know once im done. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 00:24, 31 October 2018 (UTC)

@Jimmio78: I almost missed it. Turner plays acoustic guitar for track #6 not #5. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 19:26, 31 October 2018 (UTC)

@MrLinkinPark333: Fixed -Jimmio78 (talk) 20:56, 31 October 2018 (UTC)

@Jimmio78: Perfect. Now're you're all set. :) I apologize for the delay with the liner notes. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 21:13, 31 October 2018 (UTC)

Not a problem. Thanks so much for your work :) Jimmio78 (talk) 21:29, 31 October 2018 (UTC)

Final grammar check

Lead:

• "in his Los Angeles home, and features a rich sound, embodying lounge pop," - i dont think a comma is needed after rich sound.Y
• "major departure from the band's previous guitar-heavy work, less accessible" - "and less accessible"?Y

Background:

• "Turner suffered from writer's block, struggling to find a direction" - both should be past tense "and struggled".Y
• "He began writing songs for the album...Los Angeles home dubbed "Lunar Surface". - maybe two sentences?Y
• "During the process Turner recalled piano lessons" - comma needed after process
• "In September 2017 the Arctic Monkeys began recording" - comma after 2017Y
• "Helders commented that during recording he played with more restraint" - comma after recording (i think)
• "Ford and guitarist Tom Rowley (who has served as a touring member of the band since 2013)" comma before and after bracketY
• "Drummer Loren Humphrey of Guards...Evan Weiss of Wires...Monster Truck Front Flip" - perhaps make another sentence for Dawes, Parkford and Weiss.Y

Musical style:

• "Instrumentally it incorporates vintage" - comma after instrumentallyY

Lyrics:

• The "forgetful, distractible oddballs"...as well as drawing influence from lounge music" - this doesn't sound right grammatically particularly the transition from oddballs to unreliable narrators and then from narrators to lounge music influence.Y
• "Turner cited various films as influencing the lyrics" - i believe it should be "for influencing"
• "Turner commented that he took a different approach to writing...relationship with its context" - two sentences might be better to divide Turner's comment with Cohen's inspiration Y

Songs:

• "Turner has alluded that the song was inspired by conversations he witnessed and experienced ...described as "unsettling"" - long sentence and I recommend splitting it up.Y
• "Turner's vocals have been described as both "sinister"[25] and "dreamy"...in reference to horse racing." - maybe two sentences as wellY
• " Musically the track features "skittish" jazz drums," - comma after musically neededY
• "is one of many references to science fiction on the album, however Turner " - semi colon instead of comma after album, and comma after however.Y
• "The album's "schmoozy" final track, "The Ultracheese..."symbol a kind of final bow"" - i dont think comma needed after final track, but two sentences would be useful as it's long.Y

Singles:

• "On 13 May, two days after the album's release" - might be redundant with "13 may" and "two days after" as either or works Y

Tour:

• "to begin in May, concluding in October at the Voodoo Experience" - past tense as this part is now overY
• "They adapted their live show" - might need to switch to "the band" as I presume the band adapted the live shows, and not their supporting act?Y

Televised performances:

• "On 12 September, the group released a cover of "-" by Stephen Fretwell (2004)...Electric Lady Studios in New York." - i think two sentences would be easier to read, one about their renditions and the other with Spotify and recording.Y

Critical reception:

• "Roisin O'Connor of The Independent...Spin's Larry Fitzmaurice...a successful gambit" - I recommend spliting this into two sentences, one for O'Connor and one for Fitzmaurice as it's very long (and respective grammar change to past tense).Y

Accolades:

• "fourth nomination for the award, the second most nomination" - "and" to connect the two halfs of the sentenceY

Commercial performance:

• "debuted at number one on the UK Albums Chart...becoming the group's sixth consecutive album" - think it should be "and became" to align with past tenseY

@Jimmio78: If any of the above you believe is wrong let me know (punctuation isn't my strongest strength in grammar). --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 01:43, 31 October 2018 (UTC)

@MrLinkinPark333: I've gone through and addressed the majority of these. There were a couple of minor ones I disagreed with gramatically. Jimmio78 (talk) 11:09, 31 October 2018 (UTC)

@Jimmio78: I read through the three sentences without ticks and they sound alright (google shows me sentences with "as" and "for" so they work for me). I think this is it. For other reviewers: the first GA review box was when I initially started reviewing it. The later sections are for updates. I can fully say this article passes all of the GA review. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 18:56, 31 October 2018 (UTC)